The Official Los Angeles Angels 2023-2024 Hot Stove Offseason Thread

[Inside Pitch]

4 hours ago, Taylor said:

*Taco Bell

I don't think people made the connection to @Lous comments about the minor leaguers but I see you and I approve.

[Inside Pitch]

3 minutes ago, Angel Oracle said:

And Julio Franco

If Minnie Minoso wasn't dead.....

[Inside Pitch]

4 minutes ago, Chuck said:

Why aren't we talking more about signing Hector Neris? 71 appearances, 1.71 ERA, 1.05 WHIP, 77 K's in 68.2 IP for the Astros.

Neris' 28.0% hard hit rate was a career-best and -16.7 percent difference from 2022's career-worst mark. This correlated with an 86.5 mph average exit velocity allowed that was in the top 9% of the league. Neris also had the highest WPA for a non-closer at 3.82, which was tied for 5th overall among qualified relievers.

Thoughts?

I think people may view his ERA last year as a fluke, his walk rate was a little wonky and he velocity dipped a wee bit.  He was kind of effectively wild last season, those guys can be especially volatile.  But mostly I think he may be pricing himself out of people's plans -- dude opted out of a 8.5 mil option year and was reportedly asking for 7-11 mil per for 1-2 years.

[Chuck]

15 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

I think people may view his ERA last year as a fluke, his walk rate was a little wonky and he velocity dipped a wee bit.  He was kind of effectively wild last season, those guys can be especially volatile.  But mostly I think he may be pricing himself out of people's plans -- dude opted out of a 8.5 mil option year and was reportedly asking for 7-11 mil per for 1-2 years.

Thoughts on Jake Junis? 

[Chuck]

Here's a list of available relief pitchers:

RELIEF PITCHERS

Reynaldo López (30 years old, 2.8 WAR) -- signed 3-year deal with ATL (Nov. 20)
Josh Hader (30, 2.5) -- signed 5-year deal with HOU (Jan. 22)
Hector Neris (35, 2.5)
Jakob Junis (31, 2.0)
Craig Kimbrel (36, 2.0) -- signed 1-year deal with BAL (Dec. 6)
Matt Moore (35, 2.0)
Joe Jiménez (29, 1.9) -- signed 3-year deal with ATL (Nov. 2)
David Robertson (39, 1.9)
Chris Stratton (33, 1.9) -- signed 1-year deal with KC (Dec. 15)
Dylan Floro (33, 1.8) -- signed 1-year deal with WSH (Dec. 12)
Ryan Brasier (36, 1.7)
Nick Martinez (33, 1.7) -- signed 2-year deal with CIN (Dec. 1)
Collin McHugh (37, 1.7) -- retired
Buck Farmer (33, 1.6) -- signed 1-year deal with CIN (Dec. 28)
Luis García (37, 1.6) -- signed 1-year deal with LAA (Dec. 13)
Liam Hendriks (35, 1.6)
Aroldis Chapman (36, 1.5) -- reported 1-year deal with PIT
Jesse Chavez (40, 1.5)
Andrew Chafin (34, 1.4) -- signed 1-year deal with DET (Dec. 12)
Jordan Hicks (27, 1.4) -- signed 4-year deal with SF (Jan. 18)
Joe Kelly (36, 1.4) -- signed 1-year deal with LAD (Dec. 11)
Anthony Bass (36, 1.3)
John Brebbia (34, 1.2) -- reported 1-year deal with CWS
Robert Stephenson (31, 1.2) -- signed 3-year deal with LAA (Jan. 23)
Jovani Moran (27, 1.2) -- signed MiLB deal with MIN (Nov. 20)
Brent Suter (34, 1.2) -- signed 1-year deal with CIN (Jan. 13)
Michael Fulmer (31, 1.1)
Scott Alexander (34, 1.0)
Adam Ottavino (38, 1.0)
Emilio Pagán (33, 1.0) -- signed 1-year deal with CIN (Dec. 1)
Will Smith (34, 1.0) -- signed 1-year deal with KC (Dec. 11)
Ryne Stanek (32, 1.0)
Daniel Hudson (37, 0.9) -- signed MiLB deal with LAD (Dec. 12)
Shelby Miller (33, 0.9) -- signed 1-year deal with DET (Dec. 22)
Trevor Gott (31, 0.9) -- signed 1-year deal with OAK (Dec. 19)
Brad Hand (34, 0.8)
Austin Voth (32, 0.7) -- signed 1-year deal with SEA (Jan. 17)
Osvaldo Bido (28, 0.7) -- signed 1-year deal with OAK (Nov. 20)
Penn Murfee (30, 0.7) -- signed 1-year deal with ATL (Nov. 30)
Brad Boxberger (36, 0.6)
Jackson Stephens (30, 0.5) -- signed 1-year deal with ATL (Nov. 30)
Chris Devenski (33, 0.5) -- signed 1-year deal with TB (Dec. 5)
Carl Edwards Jr. (32, 0.5)
Aaron Loup (36, 0.5)
Phil Maton (31, 0.5)
Wandy Peralta (32, 0.5)
Angel Perdomo (30, 0.5) -- signed 1-year deal with ATL (Dec. 7)
Joely Rodriguez (32, 0.4)
Brett Martin (29, 0.4)
Richard Bleier (37, 0.3)
Amir Garrett (32, 0.3)
Adam Cimber (33, 0.3) -- signed 1-year deal with LAA (Dec. 13)
Josh Staumont (30, 0.3) -- signed 1-year deal with MIN (Dec. 27)
Matt Barnes (34, 0.2)
Andrew Vasquez (30, 0.2) -- signed MiLB deal with DET (Jan. 4)
Shintaro Fujinami (30, 0.2)
Lou Trivino (32, 0.2)
Matt Wisler (31, 0.2)
Justin Wilson (36, 0.2)
Derek Law (33, 0.2)
Wyatt Mills (29, 0.2) -- signed MiLB deal with BOS (Nov. 19)
José Cisnero (35, 0.1)
Kyle Crick (31, 0.1) -- signed MiLB deal with NYM (Dec. 1)
Mark Melancon (39, 0.1)
Erasmo Ramírez (34, 0.1) -- signed MiLB deal with TB (Dec. 4)
Tim Hill (34, 0.1) -- signed 1-year deal with CWS (Dec. 28)
Nick Wittgren (33, 0.1)
Michael Tonkin (34, 0.1) -- signed 1-year deal with NYM (Dec. 6)
Alex Claudio (32, 0.0)
Mychal Givens (34, 0.0)
Jake Woodford (27, 0.0) -- reported MiLB deal with CWS
Hunter Stratton (27, 0.0) -- signed MiLB deal with PIT (Dec.
Brenan Hanifee (26, 0.0) -- signed MiLB deal with DET (Dec. 19)
Ronny Henriquez (24, 0.0) -- signed MiLB deal with MIN (Nov. 19)
Dinelson Lamet (31, -0.1)
Jarlín García (31, -0.1)
Bryan Shaw (36, -0.1)
Yonny Chirinos (30, -0.1)
Chasen Shreve (33, -0.1)
Sam Coonrod (31, -0.1)
J.C. Mejía (27, -0.1) -- reported deal with Mexican League team
Cody Poteet (29, -0.1) -- signed 1-year deal with NYY (Jan. 5)
Cole Waites (26, -0.1) -- signed MiLB deal with SF (Nov. 22)
Reiver Sanmartin (28, -0.1) -- signed MiLB deal with CIN (Nov. 27)
Anthony Misiewicz (29, -0.1) -- signed MiLB deal with NYY (Dec. 7)
Jorge López (31, -0.2) -- signed 1-year deal with NYM (Dec. 13)
Jacob Barnes (34, -0.2)
Jake Diekman (37, -0.2)
Keynan Middleton (30, -0.2)
Ryan Tepera (36, -0.2)
Cooper Criswell (27, -0.2) -- signed 1-year deal with BOS (Dec. 13)
Alex Colomé (35, -0.3)
Tommy Hunter (37, -0.3) -- retired
Cole Sulser (34, -0.3) -- signed MiLB deal with NYM (Nov. 20)
Kirby Yates (37, -0.3) -- signed 1-year deal with TEX (Dec. 6)
Ethan Roberts (26, -0.3) -- signed MiLB deal with CHC (Dec. 2)
Thomas Szapucki (28, -0.3) -- signed MiLB deal with SF (Nov. 18)
Tommy Doyle (28, -0.3) -- signed MiLB deal with ATL (Nov. 25)
Brandon Hughes (28, -0.3)
Jeff Brigham (32, -0.4)
Joe Barlow (28, -0.4) -- signed MiLB deal with CWS (Jan. 12)
Tyler Duffey (33, -0.5) -- signed MiLB deal with KC (Dec. 7)
Albert Abreu (28, -0.5) -- reported deal with NPB team
Kolby Allard (26, -0.5) -- signed 1-year deal with PHI (Jan. 23)
Wander Suero (32, -0.5) -- signed MiLB deal with HOU (Dec. 7)
Matt Bush (38, -0.6)
José Marte (28, -0.6) -- signed MiLB deal with LAA (Dec. 4)
Josh Fleming (28, -0.6)
Jeurys Familia (34, -0.7)
Heath Hembree (35, -0.7)
Daniel Norris (31, -0.7)
Garrett Hill (28, -0.7) -- signed MiLB deal with DET (Nov. 21)
Dominic Leone (32, -0.8)
Drew VerHagen (33, -0.8) -- signed with NPB team (Jan. 12)
Caleb Smith (32, -0.8)
Cory Abbott (28, -0.9) -- reported MiLB deal with SEA
Ian Kennedy (39, -1.1) -- retired
Yuki Matsui (28, N/A) -- signed 5-year deal with SD (Dec. 23)
Woo-Suk Go (25, N/A) -- signed 2-year deal with SD (Jan. 3)
Jimmy Nelson (34, N/A)
Freddy Pacheco (25, N/A) -- signed MiLB deal with DET (Dec. 18)
Drew Pomeranz (34, N/A)
Alex Reyes (29, N/A)
Yariel Rodriguez (27, N/A) -- reported deal with TOR
Ricky Vanasco (25, N/A) -- signed 1-year deal with LAD (Nov. 16)

[Angelsfan1984]

Matt Moore just makes too much sense.

[Taylor]

1 hour ago, Inside Pitch said:

I don't think people made the connection to @Lous comments about the minor leaguers but I see you and I approve.

[Inside Pitch]

48 minutes ago, Chuck said:

Thoughts on Jake Junis? 

FB spiked 2 MPH moving from SP to RP.  IMO, likely a good get if only because he's one of those guys who people may not view as legit because of his career as a SP.  He's been better than his ERA each of the last two years.

[mmc]

 

[Angelsfan1984]

Just now, mmc said:

 

Uhhhh…hard pass on that 

[Ochocinco!]

 

[Stradling]

Angels get Moore?

[Ochocinco!]

BACKKKK

[Ron Mexico]

Just now, Ochocinco! said:

BACKKKK

9 mil for Moore

[Ochocinco!]

1 minute ago, Ron Mexico said:

9 mil for Moore

It’s the going rate for good pitchers rn, James fkin Paxton just got $11 million 

[Ron Mexico]

Point taken 

[ScottM]

A lot of depth in that bullpen now.

(Just don’t look at the lineup or rotation) 

[Erstad Grit]

This pen is .

Perfect pen for Snell

[Angelsfan1984]

52 minutes ago, Angelsfan1984 said:

Matt Moore just makes too much sense.

Pay this man, he’s a genius 

[ScottM]

The Snell stars are aligning 

[Ochocinco!]

Wonder who gets DFA'd for Moore now that Rivas was DFA'd for Stephenson 

[Angels 1961]

33 minutes ago, mmc said:

 

I'm surprised it was Brewers at that price. 

[Pancake Bear]

So, does all this money to the pen mean:

- We're going all in! Let's sign Belli and Snell!

- We're cheaping out on the rotation (Lorenzen or comparable) and masking it with a high end bullpen (hopefully).

- Arte is worried about long-term contracts with the tv money in jeopardy post 2023 so he's spending money...but not on long term deals.

[TroutField]

If we sign Snell the pitching depth is much better than it has been in past seasons. 
 

If we can grab a bat or 2 this team could be decent. Props to Perry for pivoting and building a solid bullpen with depth. 

[jeskola]

2 hours ago, Chuck said:

Thoughts on Jake Junis? 

His name has excellent alliteration like wade watts or Peter Parker. he is bound to be a superhero.