2024 MLB Free Agent List... Who do you want?

[Blarg]

5 hours ago, Erstad Grit said:

He's had more signature angel moments than Rendon has had. He had a few late inning bombs of great importance. His cost is also very low. We could do much worse than moose on the bench. 

Good God, you're going to have to dig a trench to drop the bar lower

68 OPS+. FFS, David Fletcher was better at the plate. You guys have lost your minds over a name. 

[Erstad Grit]

58 minutes ago, Blarg said:

Good God, you're going to have to dig a trench to drop the bar lower

68 OPS+. FFS, David Fletcher was better at the plate. You guys have lost your minds over a name. 

I said Moose would be a good bench player. He has pop and can play CI. That's better than Phil Gosselin, Jack Mayfield, and a whole lot more of what we've thrown out in that role. I'm confused by anyone would be so adamantly against a bench guy. It's like arguing about a back-up catcher on a .500 team. 

[T.G.]

1 hour ago, Blarg said:

Good God, you're going to have to dig a trench to drop the bar lower

68 OPS+. FFS, David Fletcher was better at the plate. You guys have lost your minds over a name. 

Triggered!

[mmc]

1 hour ago, Erstad Grit said:

I said Moose would be a good bench player. He has pop and can play CI. That's better than Phil Gosselin, Jack Mayfield, and a whole lot more of what we've thrown out in that role. I'm confused by anyone would be so adamantly against a bench guy. It's like arguing about a back-up catcher on a .500 team. 

I don’t know why you or anyone would see him as even a good bench guy.  I would think we want guys on the bench that are actually capable of helping the Angels win games

[Blarg]

1 hour ago, Erstad Grit said:

I said Moose would be a good bench player. He has pop and can play CI. That's better than Phil Gosselin, Jack Mayfield, and a whole lot more of what we've thrown out in that role. I'm confused by anyone would be so adamantly against a bench guy. It's like arguing about a back-up catcher on a .500 team. 

Again, we don't want Jack Mayfield, Phil Gosselin or Moustakas. We want better for a backup player than a guy with limited range, can't run, can't hit. And he can't hit, 68 OPS+ is a DFA not sign to take up pine space. 

He can be a nice guy, inspirational guy, clubhouse guy, as long as it's as a coach in the minor leagues but his career as a player in the majors is over. 

[angelsfan100]

On 11/4/2023 at 3:13 PM, Mark68 said:

You assume that Rendon will be healthy enough to even sit on the bench.

[SlappyUtilityMIF]

20 hours ago, Blarg said:

Slappy, lowering the bar just to put Moustakas in the lineup is not a valid argument. Saying he played better than a kid with barely AA experience or some filler guy since the Angels were scapping the bottom of the depth barrel is no excuse to pay for a negative WAR player.

As for a bat off the bench, what bat? He had a .256 OBP and .371 slugging percentage. That's not a bat, it's a splinter. If his name was Jake Lamb (put up similar numbers) you'd never think twice about cutting him loose and not looking back.

I understand completely Blarg your point of view. I'm not saying it's wrong or incorrect. I'm saying it's not what I would do. 

Our teams historically have sucked due to the lack of experienced players on the bench or players in the Minors with any MLB experience.

I'd rather have Moose on the bench than half the guys we had on the roster last season that were on the Salt Lake Express. I'm not even saying taking time away from Schanuel!

He also slumped as did everyone (outside of Schanuel & O'Hoppe) once the White Flag was waved. After the Trade Deadline.

Also, you are one of a Group in here that never suggested anyone! So, just sliding in to pick apart others ideas/thoughts (and have litterally suggested NO ONE on the FA List) is trollish. Since this is a Fan Blog page..

[Angels 1961]

One player not mentioned for halo bench is Michael Stefanic. I like his bat.

[Hubs]

3 hours ago, Angels 1961 said:

One player not mentioned for halo bench is Michael Stefanic. I like his bat.

His .293 career SLG is certainly a good asset for our bench.

[Hubs]

Just now, Hubs said:

His .293 career SLG is certainly a good asset for our bench.

He also can't play multiple defensive positions, or really any position well.

[Angels 1961]

36 minutes ago, Hubs said:

He also can't play multiple defensive positions, or really any position well.

Yeah I know but why is he still on 40 man roster?

[Angels 1961]

40 minutes ago, Hubs said:

His .293 career SLG is certainly a good asset for our bench.

290 avg with 380 obp last year plus very low k rate. 

[Hubs]

1 minute ago, Angels 1961 said:

290 avg with 380 obp last year plus very low k rate. 

LOL in 25 games. 

 

[Stradling]

5 minutes ago, Hubs said:

LOL in 25 games. 

 

And in those 25 games he performed.

[Hubs]

3 minutes ago, Stradling said:

And in those 25 games he performed.

I have no problem with Stefanic being up and down as a organizational depth piece, but to count on him at this point as a platoon or primary bench bat, is to suffer another season of mediocrity.

[Stradling]

3 minutes ago, Hubs said:

I have no problem with Stefanic being up and down as an organizational depth piece, but to count on him at this point as a platoon or primary bench bat, is to suffer another season of mediocrity.

He is the offensive equivalent to the defensive specialist.  He can play mediocre all around the diamond and he can get on base.  He is offensive Fletcher. 

[Hubs]

13 minutes ago, Stradling said:

He is the offensive equivalent to the defensive specialist.  He can play mediocre all around the diamond and he can get on base.  He is offensive Fletcher. 

And as a guy that comes up from Triple A as a 6th or 7th infielder when needed, no issue. But with Schanuel's inexperience, and lack of power, Neto's injury history in his first season, Rengifo's extreme variance in his capabilities, including poor defense, and Rendon's recent lack of production and injury history, I want a veteran infielder to join the club to go along with Drury.

It, as everything depends on whether or not they bring back Ohtani, as without him they are limited to 13 pitchers, meaning they will have 13 hitters as well. If he is the DH, that leaves 12.

Do you have 5 infielders and 5 outfielders or 6 and 4? Where does that leave Thaiss if you only have two catchers. 

With Moniak and Adell both being out of options, they probably have to plan on having a 5th OF just in case of injury, it would help if that guy also played first base.

Neto SS

Ward RF 

Trout CF

Ohtani DH

O'Hoppe C

Drury 2B

Schanuel 1B

Moniak LF

Rendon 3B

 

Plus Bech posibilites of

Stassi C

Rengifo INF/OF - O options

Thaiss C/INF - O options

Adell OF - O options

Stefanic INF - 2 options

Doesn't that leave a few positions vulnerable? Dont you need another MINF who is good defensively? What about Fletcher?

 

 I dont really like this team's makeup.

 

Edited November 6, 2023 by Hubs

[Angels 1961]

7 minutes ago, Hubs said:

And as a guy that comes up from Triple A as a 6th or 7th infielder when needed, no issue. But with Schanuel's inexperience, and lack of power, Neto's injury history in his first season, Rengifo's extreme variance in his capabilities, including poor defense, and Rendon's recent lack of production and injury history, I want a veteran infielder to join the club to go along with Drury.

It, as everything depends on whether or not they bring back Ohtani, as without him they are limited to 13 pitchers, meaning they will have 13 hitters as well. If he is the DH, that leaves 12.

Do you have 5 infielders and 5 outfielders or 6 and 4? Where does that leave Thaiss if you only have two catchers. 

With Moniak and Adell both being out of options, they probably have to plan on having a 5th OF just in case of injury, it would help if that guy also played first base.

Neto SS

Ward RF 

Trout CF

Ohtani DH

O'Hoppe C

Drury 2B

Schanuel 1B

Moniak LF

Rendon 3B

 

Plus Bech posibilites of

Stassi C

Rengifo INF/OF - O options

Thaiss C/INF - O options

Adell OF - O options

Stefanic INF - 2 options

Doesn't that leave a few positions vulnerable? Dont you need another MINF who is good defensively? What about Fletcher?

 

 I dont really like this team's makeup.

 

Need to stop putting Ohtani in any halo lineup.

[Hubs]

6 minutes ago, Angels 1961 said:

Need to stop putting Ohtani in any halo lineup.

If he signs elsewhere I will, Until then, I will continue to. Just because you dont think he's coming back doesn't mean it's not possible. You're pretty much wrong on everything... so.

[Tank]

On 11/5/2023 at 2:17 PM, Angels 1961 said:

I'm saying if Bellinger (he is not coming to Angels) would be playing everyday. Ward, Trout, Moniak and Adell in OF so Bellinger at what it would cost halos play 1B. If Schanuel is not playing 5 to 6 days a week he should be in minors and play everyday. 

that sounds like another good reason not to sign bellinger.

[SlappyUtilityMIF]

4 hours ago, Hubs said:

And as a guy that comes up from Triple A as a 6th or 7th infielder when needed, no issue. But with Schanuel's inexperience, and lack of power, Neto's injury history in his first season, Rengifo's extreme variance in his capabilities, including poor defense, and Rendon's recent lack of production and injury history, I want a veteran infielder to join the club to go along with Drury.

It, as everything depends on whether or not they bring back Ohtani, as without him they are limited to 13 pitchers, meaning they will have 13 hitters as well. If he is the DH, that leaves 12.

Do you have 5 infielders and 5 outfielders or 6 and 4? Where does that leave Thaiss if you only have two catchers. 

With Moniak and Adell both being out of options, they probably have to plan on having a 5th OF just in case of injury, it would help if that guy also played first base.

Neto SS

Ward RF 

Trout CF

Ohtani DH

O'Hoppe C

Drury 2B

Schanuel 1B

Moniak LF

Rendon 3B

 

Plus Bech posibilites of

Stassi C

Rengifo INF/OF - O options

Thaiss C/INF - O options

Adell OF - O options

Stefanic INF - 2 options

Doesn't that leave a few positions vulnerable? Dont you need another MINF who is good defensively? What about Fletcher?

 

 I dont really like this team's makeup.

 

Hubs, 

Good points. Our current Roster has ZERO non-DL experience! Every single guy was hurt at some point and missed numerous games.

1. I think the training change is going to help.

2. Ward may never be what he was. That was a devastating injury and after taking one to the Dome he may never comeback even at Replacement level.

3. Trout/Rendon expect 120 or less! Until they don't, which would be great if it happens! At this point I don't believe either can be counted on for even 130 games max.

4. Stassi is done.

5. Rengifo steps up only when it doesn't matter.

6. Neto, O'Hoppe and Moniak are young and had some pretty significant injuries and health concerns. 22 year old shortstop with back issues!!! MF'er you're22 years old... A young catcher who already had his non-throwing shoulder reconfigured. And Moniak who up until 2023 couldn't keep his fingers from getting smashed by inside pitches.

7. Stefanic though he hits and gets on base has meh defensive ability, and zero pop.

8. Adell hasn't put together anything.

9. The kid lefties (Detmers, Sandavol and Suarez) are consistently inconsistent and 50% of the time ineffective!

I'm extremely concerned with the Roster that's left.

[BTH]

2 minutes ago, SlappyUtilityMIF said:

4. Stassi is done.

While you were typing that essay, it was reported that Stassi is not done.

 

[Stradling]

The over reactions are hilarious. 

[SlappyUtilityMIF]

25 minutes ago, BTH said:

While you were typing that essay, it was reported that Stassi is not done.

 

And after sitting out an entire season. While not being Replacement Level the year prior. Per Blarg would say he was WORSE than MOOSE... You're expecting what? Even his defense and throwing % had plunged..

[SlappyUtilityMIF]

2 minutes ago, Stradling said:

The over reactions are hilarious. 

And show me anything that states anything I said above is an over reaction? 

I'm just pretty honest and not a hope and dreamer.