Shohei Ohtani tears UCL, won't pitch again this season

[Reveille1984]

Sucks for Ohtani though.  Right before signing likely the biggest FA contract of all time he likely needs yet another TJ surgery and probably won't pitch again until he's 31.

I really wonder what kind of deal he'll get now.

[SoCalDucksFan]

Between this and Trout's situation, it doesn't help the Angels chances at that 3rd Wild Card spot.

[stormngt]

2 minutes ago, Jason said:

I don’t think he’s going to be as expensive as you think. He went from the greatest player in the league to a DH only. 

Why do so many people are so convinced he cant play any position but DH?

[Kotchman]

I remember Strad mocking me when I said Sho is brittle. 

[Jason]

Just now, stormngt said:

Why do so many people are so convinced he cant play any position but DH?

Because we’ve never seen him do it? At least that’s why for me. 

[jsnpritchett]

 

 

[Taylor]

20 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:

[tomsred]

Just now, Jason said:

I don’t think he’s going to be as expensive as you think. He went from the greatest player in the league to a DH only. 

I think that is jumping to a conclusion based on too little information about the injury.  He could return to pitching, but maybe a relief role would be better, reduced innings with less wear and tear.  He could become a position player, who knows the possible outcomes at this point.  We still have three months until free agency, a lot more will be known at that time if the Angels don't sign him to a contract in the interim.  He is still very valuable to this team no matter the outcome.

[stormngt]

Just now, Jason said:

Because we’ve never seen him do it? At least that’s why for me. 

He played RF a few innings for the Angels and RF in Japan.

Plus, Its not like he would be the first player to learn a new position.

[jsnpritchett]

1 minute ago, stormngt said:

Why do so many people are so convinced he cant play any position but DH?

If he's rehabbing or recovering from another TJ surgery, he's not gonna be out there in the OF making throws.

[tomsred]

1 minute ago, Jason said:

Because we’ve never seen him do it? At least that’s why for me. 

 

Actually he has played a little RF before.  Certainly he would be better offensively than Renfroe.

[Jason]

1 minute ago, tomsred said:

I think that is jumping to a conclusion based on too little information about the injury.  He could return to pitching, but maybe a relief role would be better, reduced innings with less wear and tear.  He could become a position player, who knows the possible outcomes at this point.  We still have three months until free agency, a lot more will be known at that time if the Angels don't sign him to a contract in the interim.  He is still very valuable to this team no matter the outcome.

Of course but either way, free agency just dramatically changed for him. 

[stormngt]

Just now, jsnpritchett said:

If he's rehabbing or recovering from another TJ surgery, he's not gonna be out there in the OF making throws.

Of course he is DH while he recovers from surgery.  I am referring to the following years

[Taylor]

1 minute ago, jsnpritchett said:

If he's rehabbing or recovering from another TJ surgery, he's not gonna be out there in the OF making throws.

The stupidity of some people on this board is fascinating.

[Jason]

1 minute ago, stormngt said:

He played RF a few innings for the Angels and RF in Japan.

Plus, Its not like he would be the first player to learn a new position.

I’d rather the Angels have a legit and proven right fielder out there every day. 

[jsnpritchett]

1 minute ago, tomsred said:

  He could return to pitching, but maybe a relief role would be better, reduced innings with less wear and tear. 

I've seen some folks on Twitter mentioning the possibility of making him a reliever. That's more complicated than him being a starter, though, since he'd obviously need to warm up during the game rather than before, and that could be impacted by where the Angels are in the batting order at the time. 

[70runner]

Truly sad to see Ohtani and Trout go down on same day, but that seems the Angels way.  I'm happy for the nosedive, they weren't making the post season anyway, if it convinces Moreno to sell. 

Please stop with the players have quit BS.  Angels simply are not a very good team.  They haven't been successful with Ohtani, without him they will battle Oakland and KC for the crummy award. 

[full circle]

4 minutes ago, Kotchman said:

I remember Strad mocking me when I said Sho is brittle. 

It’s a compliment.  StradTime is to baseball takes as Jim Cramer is to stock picks.  

[stormngt]

Just now, Jason said:

I’d rather the Angels have a legit and proven right fielder out there every day. 

Cool

I am willing to bet after he recovers he plays a position other than DH.

You go ahead and grab a Renfro, or Grichulk, or Adell.

I prefer Ohtani over any of them.

Lets wait and see who is right.

[Jason]

1 minute ago, tomsred said:

 

Actually he has played a little RF before.  Certainly he would be better offensively than Renfroe.

We all know he’s not a position player so we shouldn’t kid ourselves. It would be cool though. Trying to turn him into a serviceable position player while he’s rehabbing an elbow injury does not seem like a winning strategy for the team. If he can still hit, try to sign him as a DH for a fraction of the cost everyone thought he was going to get. If he can pitch well in a couple of years then that will be a bonus. 

[jsnpritchett]

Just so I'm clear, people are cool throwing hundreds of millions after a guy who in all likelihood will only be able to DH next season, in the hopes that he'll a) magically be able to effectively transition to an actual defensive position in the future, b) return to form as a starting pitcher after (most likely) a second TJ surgery, and/or c) be able to transition into a reliever who is magically able to warm up in between at bats. Do I have that right? 

[YouthofToday]

Angels should have traded him at the deadline. This organization is so incompetent it’s almost unbelievable. 
 

 

[Jason]

30 minutes ago, fan_since79 said:

re: Trout

Wondering if the wrist is damaged or weakened long term. They removed that bone I believe.

Of course. God put that bone there for a reason and now it’s gone. Remove a random part or hose from your car’s engine and see if it stays the same. Now have we heard if this next IL trip is because of the hand or is it something else?

[full circle]

Some of us tried to tell y’all we needed to trade him.  Man those arguments were stupid.  

[Blarg]

13 minutes ago, stormngt said:

Why do so many people are so convinced he cant play any position but DH?

Because he hasn't and learning a fielding position at age 30 would probably lead to more injuries.