Angels recall Janson Junk, option Austin Warren

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[Taylor]

Season saved!

[Angelsjunky]

I'm hoping we start seeing some of the AA guys soon, but it wouldn't surprise me if it isn't until September, if at all.

I'd also like to see Robinson Pina promoted from A+ to AA, and if he holds up, to AAA. Something seems to have clicked: His walk rate went down from 5.3 last year to 2.8 this year, yet his K rate is basically the same. I think he could be a good reliever.

[steveuk]

Could someone explain to me the point of this move?

[Lou]

Just now, steveuk said:

Could someone explain to me the point of this move?

[mmc]

4 minutes ago, steveuk said:

Could someone explain to me the point of this move?

Warren has been bad so they’re trying someone else 

[totdprods]

8 minutes ago, steveuk said:

Could someone explain to me the point of this move?

We need someone to start today.

Sure wish they'd give Barria a chance again. So weird.

Edited July 27, 2022 by totdprods

[steveuk]

I thought Silseth was the current 6th starter?

[totdprods]

10 minutes ago, steveuk said:

I thought Silseth was the current 6th starter?

He was optioned, and Lorenzen is still out too. It's just a rotating door of guys at this point. 

[SlappyUtilityMIF]

7 hours ago, totdprods said:

He was optioned, and Lorenzen is still out too. It's just a rotating door of guys at this point. 

Which has been the MO over the last what 8 seasons?

[Angelsfan1984]

8 hours ago, totdprods said:

We need someone to start today.

Sure wish they'd give Barria a chance again. So weird.

I assume barria is as good as gone at this point. 

[HeavenlyHalos]

The Barria thing is bizarre and has been for years now for a team desperate for pitching. He has a 1.000 WHIP and a 143 ERA+ this season.

[DMVol]

12 hours ago, Angelsfan1984 said:

I assume barria is as good as gone at this point. 

Why would you assume that?  A young controllable pitcher who is pitching well? 

[Revad]

13 hours ago, HeavenlyHalos said:

The Barria thing is bizarre and has been for years now for a team desperate for pitching. He has a 1.000 WHIP and a 143 ERA+ this season.

I don’t get it either.  He’s as good as Suarez.

[tdawg87]

He's done well in his current role. I think he and Suarez are redundant. 

[Angelsfan1984]

1 hour ago, DMVol said:

Why would you assume that?  A young controllable pitcher who is pitching well? 

He’s out of options and can’t crack the rotation. 

[Angel Oracle]

7 minutes ago, Angelsfan1984 said:

He’s out of options and can’t crack the rotation. 

Which is why they need to give him a try for the rest of the season.

If he does well enough, can stick in the lower part of rotation in 2023.

If not, then trade him.

Edited July 28, 2022 by Angel Oracle

[Angelsfan1984]

2 minutes ago, Angel Oracle said:

Which is why they need to give him a try for the rest of the season.

If he does well enough, can stick in the lower part of rotation in 2023.

If not, then trade him.

Haven’t they tried that for 2-3 years? He does decently but then still gets relegated out? There’s clearly a reason why that we fans aren’t privy to.

[Angel Oracle]

Junk pitched well.   Good movement on pitches and touched 94-95

Got 11 swing and misses amongst the 8Ks, and only 1 BB to the last batter faced.

Earned another start next week?

[DMVol]

1 hour ago, Angelsfan1984 said:

Haven’t they tried that for 2-3 years? He does decently but then still gets relegated out? There’s clearly a reason why that we fans aren’t privy to.

I don’t know what his trade value is but if they are hesitant about the rotation, why not keep him in long relief, where he seemingly has thrived?

[Angelsjunky]

People say, "why isn't Barria given another chance to start?"

Meanwhile Barria has pitched 48 innings with a 2.81 ERA in long relief this year. Seems like the perfect role for him.

 

 

[Revad]

5 minutes ago, Angelsjunky said:

People say, "why isn't Barria given another chance to start?"

Meanwhile Barria has pitched 48 innings with a 2.81 ERA in long relief this year. Seems like the perfect role for him.

 

 

True enough but the point is when we’re throwing these young starters out there, who is better for that game.  Barria’s numbers would not be the same if he was starting, but is the only one suited for that role?  No high leverage innings?  We have other guys for that.

[totdprods]

33 minutes ago, Angelsjunky said:

People say, "why isn't Barria given another chance to start?"

Meanwhile Barria has pitched 48 innings with a 2.81 ERA in long relief this year. Seems like the perfect role for him.

 

 

He's never really been consistently bad as a starter though. Not great. But he was young and developing still, and holding his own. He was pretty safe to give you 5 IP, 5 H, 3 ER, 2 HR, 2 BB, 4 K sort of start. Just fine for a #5-#6 type.

[Angelsjunky]

1 minute ago, totdprods said:

He's never really been consistently bad as a starter though. Not great. But he was young and developing still, and holding his own. He was pretty safe to give you 5 IP, 5 H, 3 ER, 2 HR, 2 BB, 4 K sort of start. Just fine for a #5-#6 type.

Yes, he's a solid option. I just don't think it is some huge controversy that the Angels prefer him in the bullpen. I think the idea is that you want every starter to either at least be a solid #3-4 or have the potential to be a solid #3-4. To be fair to Barria, up until this year, he actually performed better as a starter, and at a solid #4 level. And it is kind of weird that he wasn't more of an option in 2020-21, despite his terrible 2019. But given that the Angels need relievers too, and Barria has done very well this year, it makes sense that he stays there.

I personally think Suarez should be a reliever as well, in the hopes that he can re-capture what he did last year while in relief. But I also see why the Angels want to give him more of a chance to figure it out - now's the time.

Of the Suarez's ten starts this year, two have been good, three OK, and five really bad. That's not a good ratio. But I think the Angels are probably smart to keep him in the rotation for the rest of the year, to see if he can improve. If not, he should be in the bullpen next year.

And Junk has obviously earned more starts - not as much because he deserves it, but because the Angels need to assess what they have. 

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[Angel Oracle]

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