The Official 2022 Los Angeles Angels Minor League Stats, Reports & Scouting Thread

[tdawg87]

35 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

Minasian and company deserve credit for capitalizing on the situation too.  With so much of Marsh's current value tied into his defense (even more in CF) where he too was blocked, resetting the clock/years of control at a premium defensive position with another potentially plus offensive player was a good move.

Now I'm hoping Orlando Martinez can up his OBP skills to the point where he can become a modern day Orlando Palmiero.

At first the trade made no sense to me. I was like...ok. 

It's starting to make sense now. 

I liked Marsh a lot (and still do) but I feel like his production can be replaced rather easily. 

Catching prospects like this? Not exactly a dime a dozen. 

I'm not getting overhyped but it's clear the dude can hit and has a fucking Death Star superlaser for an arm. 

I definitely understand why Minasian is taking the risk with that trade. The reward is higher than Marsh's ceiling could ever come close to.

[Inside Pitch]

21 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

At first the trade made no sense to me. I was like...ok. 

It's starting to make sense now. 

I liked Marsh a lot (and still do) but I feel like his production can be replaced rather easily. 

Catching prospects like this? Not exactly a dime a dozen. 

I'm not getting overhyped but it's clear the dude can hit and has a fucking Death Star superlaser for an arm. 

I definitely understand why Minasian is taking the risk with that trade. The reward is higher than Marsh's ceiling could ever come close to.

If you remember at the height of Marsh's prospect-ness I went on record as saying I'd move him for a catching prospect...  Position scarcity is as real as relief pitcher volatility. 

The problem with catchers has always been the development path is rife with flame outs.  So trading for a guy who appears to be past that flame out point is huge. 

I had never seen O'Hoppe and that was my concern.  The power numbers are noise to me, the rest of his game is not.

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[tdawg87]

Me trying not to get excited about any of this

[Chuck]

So today I interviewed Zach Neto, Ben Joyce, Sonny D, Eric Torres (leads the league in saves), Luke Murphy, Eric Aguilar (leads the league in OBP) and Jordyn Adams. 

I'll be posting the interviews over the next week or so. 

Neto & Joyce were my two favorite interviews, but the rest are good too. 

I'm going back for the playoffs in September to get O'Hoppe, Jackson, Bush, Bachman and a couple other guys. 

Talk to the manager of the Trash Pandas and he said Perry Minasian and him are constantly in touch. Sounds like Double-A may be some of our top prospects last stop as the dimensions and high altitude in Salt Lake are not ideal for pitchers. I could see guys like Neto and O'Hoppe, all of our position player prospects going there however. 

O'Hoppe has a laser for an arm. Seeing it in person was something special. Reminds me of Pudge back there. Big time power. Him and Joyce are really STRONG dudes and in tip top shape. 

On the flip side, I just wanted to drink a beer with Sonny DiChiara and give him a bear hug goodbye. 

Here's a couple of videos I took, interviews to come later. You won't want to miss those! 

 

[rafibomb]

2 hours ago, rafibomb said:

 

Quero got to more at-bats needing just a single to complete the cycle and walked in both at-bats. What a bum.

[Angel Oracle]

1 hour ago, rafibomb said:

Quero got to more at-bats needing just a single to complete the cycle and walked in both at-bats. What a bum.

In addition to the solid hitting, he is also a BBs guy (60 BBs and just 80 Ks in some 440 PAs).

.966 OPS despite playing half of his games in a hitting neutral stadium 

At the age of 19

Edited August 22, 2022 by Angel Oracle

[BTH]

3 hours ago, Chuckster70 said:

Sounds like Double-A may be some of our top prospects last stop as the dimensions and high altitude in Salt Lake are not ideal for pitchers. I could see guys like Neto and O'Hoppe, all of our position player prospects going there however.

I could see a lot of the pitching prospects jumping from AA to the majors next season, a la Chase Silseth this season.

Bachman, Bush, Crow, Erla, Hernandez, Joyce, Murphy, Torres, etc.

If the Angels were contending this season, I think they might’ve pushed some more guys like Bachman, Bush, Erla, Murphy, and Torres. But since they were out of it after the 14 game losing streak, they just let those guys get more AA experience.

[Docwaukee]

Loving the AA team right now.  It's a lot of fun.  

That said, if the Angels are going to rely on an influx of players from AA to the majors as significant contributors to being competitive then they are about to make the same mistake they have been.  

The offense needs what Ohoppe, Neto, Jackson, maybe Adams and Sonny are gonna be 2-3 years from now.  The pen needs all those arms to function like 25/26/27 year old guys with experience.  

Just another setup for a mismatch in timing of who you can expect to be good when.  

[Blarg]

The Angels need to find a neutral park for their AAA affiliate. It is one move Minasian can push forward that would impact the prospect development. 

[Stradling]

10 minutes ago, Blarg said:

The Angels need to find a neutral park for their AAA affiliate. It is one move Minasian can push forward that would impact the prospect development. 

I agree, but I thought MLB took control of this a few years back? 

[Angel Oracle]

Fresno was available when the Nats left, but Colorado swooped in for the 2021 season and beyond.

Would have been a great AAA affiliate.

Edited August 22, 2022 by Angel Oracle

[Docwaukee]

2 hours ago, Blarg said:

The Angels need to find a neutral park for their AAA affiliate. It is one move Minasian can push forward that would impact the prospect development. 

and from what I understand, they've made it even weirder with humidor balls.  I think @Inside Pitch posted that the home park factors this year weren't as bad as in the past.  

[Inside Pitch]

6 minutes ago, Docwaukee said:

and from what I understand, they've made it even weirder with humidor balls.  I think @Inside Pitch posted that the home park factors this year weren't as bad as in the past.  

Yep, it's never played so close to neutral.

This is the full season data for last season -- it's down even lower this season.  First time it's ever played as league average for HRs

Triple-A West

		Runs		Home Runs		BABIP
Team	Org	PF	Mult	PF	Mult	PF	Mult
Albuquerque	COL	112	1.059	114	1.072	109	1.045
El Paso	SD	124	1.121	127	1.137	107	1.033
Las Vegas	OAK	128	1.141	114	1.070	112	1.059
Oklahoma City	LAD	83	0.916	77	0.883	95	0.974
Reno	ARI	106	1.031	109	1.044	101	1.003
Round Rock	TEX	97	0.985	108	1.042	97	0.984
Sacramento	SF	88	0.939	106	1.031	93	0.967
Salt Lake	LAA	106	1.029	100	1.001	107	1.033
Sugar Land	HOU	78	0.892	70	0.849	90	0.951
Tacoma	SEA	85	0.923	86	0.931	90	0.948

[Angel Oracle]

So not so bad for pitchers and not so inflated for hitters?

I like.

The only down side remaining is the breaking pitches not having the same movement at 4500 foot altitude.

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[Angel Oracle]

1 hour ago, rafibomb said:

 

For all 30 teams?

[tdawg87]

1 minute ago, Angel Oracle said:

For all 30 teams?

Yep.

[Second Base]

Yeah, but he's not a top 100 prospect because he's only 5'11", plays in the Angels organization and came from Cuba instead of the Dominican Republic or Venezuela.  

Meanwhile, Francisco Alvarez is 5'10", experienced the same success in the low minors at age 19, isn't a switch hitter, nor is he as good of a defender, but he's the top freaking prospect in all of baseball? 

Yeah, there's a bias in prospect rankings. 

Hot take, I believe Logan O'Hoppe is better than the #1 prospect in baseball. He has better plate discipline, is a better athlete, and a far superior defensive catcher. Alvarez is a lesser version of Gary Sanchez, who had two and a half good seasons of baseball before becoming a bad defensive backup catcher. 

 

[ScottM]

What is the park effect of IE? I used to know these things 

[Inside Pitch]

4 minutes ago, ScottSted said:

What is the park effect of IE? I used to know these things 

Pitcher park.

Low-A West

		Runs		Home Runs		BABIP
Team	Org	PF	Mult	PF	Mult	PF	Mult
Fresno	COL	116	1.078	145	1.223	97	0.987
Inland Empire	LAA	97	0.987	87	0.933	106	1.030
Lake Elsinore	SD	99	0.993	65	0.826	99	0.997
Modesto	SEA	91	0.957	69	0.845	104	1.020
Rancho Cucamonga	LAD	105	1.026	115	1.075	98	0.992
San Jose	SF	98	0.990	77	0.887	102	1.011
Stockton	OAK	99	0.993	160	1.301	90	0.952
Visalia	ARI	100	1.000	109	1.046	104	1.021

 

[mmc]

 

[Stax]

21 minutes ago, mmc said:

 

https://www.milb.com/news/ryan-aguilar-program

[ScottM]

48 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

Pitcher park.

Low-A West

		Runs		Home Runs		BABIP
Team	Org	PF	Mult	PF	Mult	PF	Mult
Fresno	COL	116	1.078	145	1.223	97	0.987
Inland Empire	LAA	97	0.987	87	0.933	106	1.030
Lake Elsinore	SD	99	0.993	65	0.826	99	0.997
Modesto	SEA	91	0.957	69	0.845	104	1.020
Rancho Cucamonga	LAD	105	1.026	115	1.075	98	0.992
San Jose	SF	98	0.990	77	0.887	102	1.011
Stockton	OAK	99	0.993	160	1.301	90	0.952
Visalia	ARI	100	1.000	109	1.046	104	1.021

 

Thanks. Hell of a season for Quero. Surprised Perry didn't promote him this year, but he is still awfully young.