2013 Draft Thread

[Scott34]

Very interesting. 4 raw 3-4 years away pitchers.

[SoWhat]

@MLBDraftTracker: 5 (157): #Angels select Savannah State University RHP Kyle McGowin. http://t.co/aLTynLd27B #MLBDraft

[Stradling]

McGowin sounds like the first of these pitchers without a big arm.

[Inside Pitch]

Raw projectable arms with upside. Gonna be a boom or bust draft. They had to try and get some guys with potential without much money. Tough situation. First wave ready 4-5 yrs from now.

To me this means they continue the free agent route for the next couple years at least.

 

 

Or they have decided they will go with that they have and try to get right.   I agree with you on money being a huge factor.  They don't have a lot to spend.

[Dreams]

http://www.baseballamerica.com/college/sleeper-alert-kyle-mcgowin-rhp-savannah-state/

 

 

Sleeper Alert: Kyle McGowin, RHP, Savannah State

[Dreams]

 

http://www.baseballamerica.com/college/sleeper-alert-kyle-mcgowin-rhp-savannah-state/

 

 

Sleeper Alert: Kyle McGowin, RHP, Savannah State

 

 

"McGowin pitches with some emotion on the mound. He gets fired up after giving up a base hit or a run, and that’s when he dials up his fastball—which has gotten as hot as 95 mph this year."

[Dave Saltzer]

Raw projectable arms with upside. Gonna be a boom or bust draft. They had to try and get some guys with potential without much money. Tough situation. First wave ready 4-5 yrs from now.

To me this means they continue the free agent route for the next couple years at least.

I think it means that they are set internally for offense for a while, but what they need down the road is pitching. They have enough offense at the ML level (even if it isn't showing itself right now), and for replacements have Grichuk, Cron, Cowart, Lindsey, Borenstein, etc. As those players rise up, it would be nice to have some good pitching to go with it. And, as Ric Wilson told us, the depth of pitching was where this draft was, so, go after the strengths of the draft while the teams with the better picks fight over the few hitters in the crop.

[m0nkey]

With their 2nd pick (95th overall pick) Angels pick RHP Keynan Middleton

No ones asked if there's any relation to kate

[Mark68]

Wanted to congratulate Michael Lorenzen for getting picked 38th overall. Youngest of four brothers that me, my brother and cousins all played against. He was actually the baby of the four and remember him playing t-ball and sitting in the stands watching his older brothers play with and against my family and I. Had no idea how good he became until a couple years ago.

I was actually coached by both his dad and his mom in separate years and his oldest brother is still a friend of the family and had been drafted by the Dodgers over a decade ago. Nice to see somebody I knew personally continue to succeed.

What are your thoughts on the Reds wanting to make him a pitcher exclusively? Is he a better pitcher or hitter?

[red321]

Lorenzen throws 97+, with little to no warmup. Wonder if they are going to see if he could make it as a starter if he concentrates on just pitching. If not, he could reach a major league bullpen quickly with that arm.

[SoWhat]

@MLBDraftTracker: 6 (187): #Angels select Florida Gulf Coast University RHP Harrison Cooney. http://t.co/aLTynLd27B #MLBDraft

[Tyler]

Cooney, Harrison Florida Gulf Coast University (FL) RHP R/R JR 6'03" 200lbs DOB: 03/23/92Cooney began the season as Florida Gulf Coast's closer and excelled in that role before joining the starting rotation in April. Cooney's fastball sits in the low-90s and occasionally touches 95 mph out of the bullpen. He also throws a slider and changeup, both of which are Major League-average offerings when he is at his best. Cooney is a late-bloomer and still is more of a thrower than a pitcher. He needs more experience, but could remain a starter as a professional if he adds strength to his 6-foot-3, 196-pound frame and continues to develop his feel for pitching.

 

[Mark68]

Drafting high ceiling arms. I like it. Now if we could only get a pitching coach that will help these guys reach their full potential...

[Dreams]

By 2018, we should have pretty good pitching

[red321]

By 2018...if more than one of these guys is in the bigs the Angels did alright for themselves.

[Dave Saltzer]

Is this our first FL pick? I wonder how much not having Tom Kotchman would affect the draft. It seems that we are picking a lot more of the Midwest guys. Maybe that's where the talent is, or, maybe that's where the strength in scouting is in the organization now.

[jshep]

Damn, Giants just grabbed Nick Vander Tuig from UCLA

[Angel Oracle]

Don't let some other sources of rankings upset you all regarding the draft. What other organizations think and how they rank players isn't as important as what the talent is that we get on the field. I recall some organizations ranking Trout lower than where we picked him. That turned out okay. In fact, all the other organizations that drafted ahead of us had Trout ranked lower than where he should have been picked. Not all of these picks are money saving moves--it's just a desire on the Angels part to get the best talent they can overall. The Angels do their own talent evaluations and rankings, and it is clearly different than BA's. Just because it is doesn't make it wrong.

This is a good point.    I think though that the Clarke and Bolden early picks (also projected to go 2-3 rounds later) in 2010 have us wondering when a player is selected a few rounds before he's predicted to be.

[Angel Oracle]

 

Cooney, Harrison Florida Gulf Coast University (FL) RHP R/R JR 6'03" 200lbs DOB: 03/23/92Cooney began the season as Florida Gulf Coast's closer and excelled in that role before joining the starting rotation in April. Cooney's fastball sits in the low-90s and occasionally touches 95 mph out of the bullpen. He also throws a slider and changeup, both of which are Major League-average offerings when he is at his best. Cooney is a late-bloomer and still is more of a thrower than a pitcher. He needs more experience, but could remain a starter as a professional if he adds strength to his 6-foot-3, 196-pound frame and continues to develop his feel for pitching.

 

 

Nice to see that Chris Sale isn't the only pitcher at that suddenly basketball factory.  

[Sam Sanchez]

What are your thoughts on the Reds wanting to make him a pitcher exclusively? Is he a better pitcher or hitter?

His arm is impressive and his oldest brother was actually drafted as a pitcher and was a very talented pitcher himself though never was able to make it out. Personally, I'd rather see him as a hitter from what I have seen, but I guess time will tell and I wish him the best of luck regardless how he's used.

Honestly though, some people here might be a little more familiar with the degree of his talent as I've mostly followed him from a personal perspective and hearsay through mutual friends and family.

[Mark68]

Is this our first FL pick? I wonder how much not having Tom Kotchman would affect the draft. It seems that we are picking a lot more of the Midwest guys. Maybe that's where the talent is, or, maybe that's where the strength in scouting is in the organization now.

Could be the new market inefficiency. Everybody is aware of the talent in places like CA, TX, FL because of their longer seasons. Maybe these guys from the Midwest and Northwest, while they haven't had as much of an opportunity to showcase their talents (and thus not getting to the high levels of the draft) are going to be the ones that are easier to sign at or below slot.

[Inside Pitch]

Is this our first FL pick? I wonder how much not having Tom Kotchman would affect the draft. It seems that we are picking a lot more of the Midwest guys. Maybe that's where the talent is, or, maybe that's where the strength in scouting is in the organization now.

 

 

It's been said that the talent in FL this year is pretty well below average.

[Tyler]

His arm is impressive and his oldest brother was actually drafted as a pitcher and was a very talented himself pitcher though never was able to make it out. Personally, I'd rather see him as a hitter from what I have seen, but I guess time will tell and I wish him the best of luck regardless how he's used.

Honestly though, some people here might be a little more familiar with the degree of his talent as I've mostly followed him from a personal perspective and hearsay through mutual friends and family.

 

Well, he can throw 98 on the mound and shows a potential plus breaking ball (I think he grades out as a reliever), but since he can be a CF I would think he'd have more value there. I'd like to see him be an everyday player as well.

[Tyler]

Angels finally take a pitcher.

 

Nuss, Garrett Seminole State (FL) RHP R/R J2 6'01" 180lbs DOB: 04/15/93

 

[Angel Oracle]

New Jersey produced the best ever draft pick in 2009.