Orioles

[Vegas Halo Fan]

On 10/25/2018 at 12:01 PM, Angel Oracle said:

Arte seems to have gotten out of the way, ever since the Hackilton fiasco.

Can Angelos do the same?   Hire a solid GM, and let the GM do his thing uninterrupted?

Ted Turner finally did this in Atlanta, quit making decisions himself based on emotion, and let his baseball people make the decisions. Fourteen straight division titles and the club's first world title since the 1950s followed.

[DCAngelsFan]

On 10/25/2018 at 1:23 PM, Angel Oracle said:

Is it all Angelos?

He's bad - he's very short-term thinking, impulsive, ignores boring things like investing and building for the future, and egomaniacal --  needs his butt kissed by anyone he pays, so he's surrounded by "yes" men -- and maybe the worst thing is giving his sons free reign to ruin, er, "run" things.  They're not evil, they're just not good.  

It's a very dysfunctional organization from everything I've heard - but he has a beautiful park, (which he didn't build), and a history and legacy (that he's ruining), so there's a certain inertia to the club and its finances that no amount of baseball incompetence seems to damage too badly.  

 

[Inside Pitch]

Still nothing on a GM....    FA signing period officially started, GM meetings on the 6th...   I'm not even trying to kick the Orioles while they are down, as a baseball fan it's so weird to see a MLB just so completely in the woods..

This article on the GM search and what the Orioles are trying to accomplish https://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/orioles/bs-sp-orioles-executive-search-20181102-story.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter n 

Really good read and as a fan it's kind of terrifying at the same time..     According to the author's sources -- the Orioles are using the interview process to learn how other teams do things in hopes of creating their own plan...

Just completely nutty...

 

[tomsred]

1 hour ago, Inside Pitch said:

Still nothing on a GM....    FA signing period officially started, GM meetings on the 6th...   I'm not even trying to kick the Orioles while they are down, as a baseball fan it's so weird to see a MLB just so completely in the woods..

This article on the GM search and what the Orioles are trying to accomplish https://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/orioles/bs-sp-orioles-executive-search-20181102-story.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter n 

Really good read and as a fan it's kind of terrifying at the same time..     According to the author's sources -- the Orioles are using the interview process to learn how other teams do things in hopes of creating their own plan...

Just completely nutty...

 

It's kind of sad when all you have as a plan is to follow the herd mentality.  They should be off thinking outside the box, and how to leap frog their competition, not trying to copy it.

[Blarg]

Tom, it's the Orioles. They are doing the best they can just copying from other's test paper. And getting a D.  

[Second Base]

I think it just means that instead of being able to trade th actual assets they have on hand, gathering prospects and starting this rebuild so they can compete in 2025, it'll probably be until 2027 before they're there. 

I still think they're in better position that the Mariners. Having no GM is better than having Jerry Dipoto be your GM. At least in the Oriole's case, they won't be spending any money and are actually building a farm (this international class notwithstanding), or at leas they will be soon. The Mariners are going to spend more and more money, still not win, and still not having any semblance of a farm system for at least another three years until ownership realizes Dipoto and Servais are terrible at this baseball thing. Seattle won't be in the playoffs again until 2028 at the earliest, unless something goes horribly awry in the AL West. 

[Troll Daddy]

Scioscia for GM

[Angel Oracle]

Sounds like the sons are channeling their inner Jimmy Bob Buss?   Just sell the team, or get out of the freaking way and hire a GOOD GM.

[Fish Oil]

It looks like Mike Elias will be the O's new GM,  and perhaps Mejdal will be leaving Houston for Baltimore.

[totdprods]

8 minutes ago, Fish Oil said:

It looks like Mike Elias will be the O's new GM,  and perhaps Mejdal will be leaving Houston for Baltimore.

Lotsa talent leaving Houston these days.

[Inside Pitch]

21 minutes ago, Fish Oil said:

It looks like Mike Elias will be the O's new GM,  and perhaps Mejdal will be leaving Houston for Baltimore.

Good hire for them and more of a brain drain for Houston -- so good for us.   Flip side is that there will likely be one less dumb team and that's not good for us.

[Fish Oil]

4 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

Good hire for them and more of a brain drain for Houston -- so good for us.   Flip side is that there will likely be one less dumb team and that's not good for us.

Although Peter's sons are in charge now, their last name is still Angelos. Let's not count them as a smart team just yet.

[AngelsFanSince86]

9 hours ago, Inside Pitch said:

Good hire for them and more of a brain drain for Houston -- so good for us.   Flip side is that there will likely be one less dumb team and that's not good for us.

Well if it makes the east more competitive then it at least should make it easier to compete for a wild card spot. Rather than letting the red Sox and Yankees beat up on them to pad their win column.

[bruin5]

The Orioles were never the same after Harry Dalton left....

[Angel Oracle]

O's are just channeling their inner St. Louis Browns, which is what they were until 1954.