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[Thomas]

10 minutes ago, gotbeer said:

Attacking or supporting?

[Thomas]

12 hours ago, wopphil said:

The Arab/Muslim world is just unbelievably fucked up in almost every which way. Does the desert heat just destroy their brains?

Similar to the Texas heat?

[Thomas]

10 hours ago, calscuf said:

No, little dicks and the worst book on the planet does.

Twilight? 

[Lhalo]

1 hour ago, mtangelsfan said:

I can't find that story, do you have a link?

I swear, I still can't believe Turkey is part of NATO.  We would have to fight and die for those ass-hats.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/06/turkey-fast-track-troops-deployment-qatar-170607151127104.html

[ten ocho recon scout]

On 6/6/2017 at 11:28 PM, calscuf said:

No, little dicks and the worst book on the planet does.

They read L Ron Hubbard?

[Vegas Halo Fan]

On 6/4/2017 at 11:30 PM, arch stanton said:

The World Cup isn't for another 5 years. The more pressing issue is that Doha is the best hub to fly out of the region. Best wifi in the Middle East, plenty of direct flights to the new international airport at Clark and the hottest flight attendants this side of Cathay Pacific 

Qatar will be starting non-stop flights to Vegas sometime early next year.

[red321]

Seems like a bit of mixed messaging going on here?

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-sells-qatar-12-billion-arms-days-after-accusing-it-of-funding-terrorism/

WASHINGTON -- While President Trump berates Qatar for sponsoring terrorism at the highest levels, he is simultaneously authorizing the country to purchase over $21 billion of U.S. weapons. 

One portion of that deal -- $12 billion for 36 F-15QA fighter jets -- was inked on Wednesday in Washington, D.C., when Qatar's Defense Minister met with U.S. Defense Secretary James Mattis. 

[arch stanton]

So if we're taking their money it can't go to fund the terrorists. Win-win

[Thomas]

Members of Congress will put up with a lot in regards to Trump. Hell the normally much maligned branch looks comparatively sane compared to him. But they will not put up with billions of dollars going to these contracts in their districts suddenly disappearing because he decided to grow a conscience.

[Blarg]

Seemsike a contract that is a little older in development than the last week. 

[arch stanton]

This has been in the works for a few years and the principle agreement was in place months ago

[red321]

Agreed...looks like the department of defense is going about business as usual and ignoring the commander in chief on this one.

[arch stanton]

How would it look if he nixed the deal and the Qataris turned around and bought Typhoons instead? Or worse even, MiGs? Would put a dent in his manufacturing agenda

[Blarg]

http://nationalinterest.org/feature/odd-man-out-france-could-sell-russias-lethal-mistral-ships-13336

The French were scrambling to find a buyer after they halted delivery to Russia for a pair of assault ships they contracted for. They were looking at South America.

I wonder if Venezuela needs $12 Billion worth of fighter jets.

Yeah, probably not.

[Blarg]

6 minutes ago, red321 said:

Agreed...looks like the department of defense is going about business as usual and ignoring the commander in chief on this one.

They point out that it does not directly conflict with the current regional dispute as it will take years to complete and fill the sale in full.

"We are confident that Qatar can address its remaining issues within this timeframe, prior to delivery," explains a State Department official. 

Looks like this contract is contigiant on Qatar following the US directives. Otherwise no jets are delivered.

[Thomas]

12 minutes ago, red321 said:

Agreed...looks like the department of defense is going about business as usual and ignoring the commander in chief on this one.

He talks tough about terrorism.

He takes credit for manufacturing jobs.

That is having your cake and eating it too.

[red321]

10 minutes ago, arch stanton said:

How would it look if he nixed the deal and the Qataris turned around and bought Typhoons instead? Or worse even, MiGs? Would put a dent in his manufacturing agenda

Comes back to mixed messages then...if they are a supporter of terror as he states and agrees to the regional blockade it's hard to square that with selling them billions of dollars worth of arms, even if the process was well under way.

 

[Thomas]

2 minutes ago, red321 said:

Comes back to mixed messages then...if they are a supporter of terror as he states and agrees to the regional blockade it's hard to square that with selling them billions of dollars worth of arms, even if the process was well under way.

He's exploiting the ADHD of the voting public. Sure some people pick up the contradictory nature of well... anything and everything he does and says. However clearly there are many that don't.

[arch stanton]

7 minutes ago, red321 said:

Comes back to mixed messages then...if they are a supporter of terror as he states and agrees to the regional blockade it's hard to square that with selling them billions of dollars worth of arms, even if the process was well under way.

 

I'm choosing my personal agenda here. One of those contractor jobs could potentially ride me into retirement

[red321]

not sure I care either way...if it works for you excellent...invite me to the retirement party.

I just found it interesting, or rather another sign that we are in a period of chaos...in this case either we are sending an inconsistent message or certain aspects of the government, like the military and state department, aren't necessarily in lock step with the president and going about their business as if he's the crazy uncle in the corner

[Thomas]

5 minutes ago, red321 said:

I just found it interesting, or rather another sign that we are in a period of chaos...in this case either we are sending an inconsistent message

Where's that video of Trump debating himself because he has come out supporting both sides of seemingly almost every issue?  But now it surprises you that he is duplicitous? This issued should have been acquiesced months ago.  He'll say whatever makes him look good in the moment without any consideration about what he has or will say in the future.

 

[arch stanton]

In this region there's always going to be a lot of grey area when it comes to defense sales and security. But they all have plenty of money to spend on expensive toys and in the grand scheme it's better if it's us they buy from

[red321]

9 minutes ago, Thomas said:

Where's that video of Trump debating himself because he has come out supporting both sides of seemingly almost every issue?  But now it surprises you that he is duplicitous? This issued should have been acquiesced months ago.  He'll say whatever makes him look good in the moment without any consideration about what he has or will say in the future.

 

Not surprised...If we don't point it out each and every time Blarg will be upset and think we don't care anymore

[Vegas Halo Fan]

10 hours ago, Blarg said:

Seemsike a contract that is a little older in development than the last week. 

I doubt that it was hammered out on the spot.