Would you rather just miss the playoffs or have a top ten pick

[kevinb]

This is a difficult question, on one hand we would have a really good season but just miss out on the ultimate goal which is the playoffs. But on the other hand having a top 10 draft pick could help rebuild the team and add to the teams future faster. 

I'd prefer having a top 10 pick. Missing the playoffs even if it is by 1 game or say a half a game your still not making the ultimate goal which is to make the playoffs so whether you miss it by a half game or you miss it by 30 it really doesn't matter to me. You still failed. 

[ten ocho recon scout]

top ten pick. which to be fair is no guarantee. but theres no chance we win the world series this year. not being a downer, just a realist. if no chance of a ring, then just "making the playoffs" isnt a huge deal. it would be nice and all, but...

we lost basically our whole rotation. we were thin prior, but that killed us. cant really gripe too much, just really bad luck. now its time to invest wisely and focus on the future. 

theyve been playing well lately, but arent a playoff team anyway. again, not hating, just dont have the pitching (at all) for that. 

[Skankhunt42]

[Torridd]

I think we should do all we can to make the playoffs. Draft picks aren't sure things.

[Troll Daddy]

Didn't someone just post a similar thread a few days ago.

[kevinb]

28 minutes ago, Troll Daddy said:

Didn't someone just post a similar thread a few days ago.

Doubt it

[ukyah]

1 hour ago, Troll Daddy said:

Didn't someone just post a similar thread a few days ago.

 

1 hour ago, Kevinb said:

Doubt it

 

that's actually the funniest thing that's happened around here for awhile. 

as far as the question goes, i think it's a mirage. it seems like a reasonable question because the two events seem either/or, but they're not. they exist on different planes of perspective. one is short term perspective and the other is long term. 

in the short term, do i want the angels to play meaningful baseball all the way to the last day of the regular season? of course i do. because i can't know that they're going to miss out on the playoffs on that last day. but if i do know that they're going to fail, then of course i would take the better draft talent, because regardless of what the common narrative may be, the truth is top ten draft picks have a significantly higher rate of making the mlb.

i'll add my own information to the topic, which is this, i believe that sustained losing seasons, which allows for the stockpiling of higher grade amateur talent, creates a culture of losing withing the organization that negates the value of the higher grade amateur talent. it's very hard to break from negative cycles and that truth is born out in everyday life.

[Lou]

9 hours ago, Kevinb said:

This is a difficult question, on one hand we would have a really good season but just miss out on the ultimate goal which is the playoffs. But on the other hand having a top 10 draft pick could help rebuild the team and add to the teams future faster. 

I'd prefer having a top 10 pick. Missing the playoffs even if it is by 1 game or say a half a game your still not making the ultimate goal which is to make the playoffs so whether you miss it by a half game or you miss it by 30 it really doesn't matter to me. You still failed. 

Funny thing is that I don't recall people here saying last year was a very good season. In fact, it has been referred to as a failure. 

[kevinb]

2 minutes ago, Lou said:

Funny thing is that I don't recall people here saying last year was a very good season. In fact, it has been referred to as a failure. 

Would missing the playoffs ever be considered s success ?

[kevinb]

I guess I'm just asking say the Angels are mathematically eliminated. Would you rather them continue to win to worsen their draft slow or just tank the rest for a draft slot?

[Lou]

is a season considered a failure ever refererred to as very good ?

[kevinb]

1 minute ago, Lou said:

is a season considered a failure ever refererred to as very good ?

Why not winning record u can see some joy in it. Maybe not very good but could be good season winning more than losing 

[Lou]

so failure can be very good 

[Lou]

I would consider our 1962 season as very good 

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

1 hour ago, Kevinb said:

2 hours ago, Troll Daddy said:

Didn't someone just post a similar thread a few days ago.

Doubt it

There was another poll a few days ago that was similar.

1. Rather make the playoffs or

2. Get a protected draft pick

It seems to have been removed, at least I couldn't find it.

 

[Lou]

9 minutes ago, Kevinb said:

I guess I'm just asking say the Angels are mathematically eliminated. Would you rather them continue to win to worsen their draft slow or just tank the rest for a draft slot?

That's a completely different qustion

Edited July 30, 2016 by Lou

[kevinb]

Just now, Lou said:

That's a completely dufferent qustion

Not really. You could be eliminated and miss the playoffs by one game or u could get a top 10 pick. Do u still go for wins even if there's no shot at making the playoffs

[kevinb]

3 minutes ago, Lou said:

I would consider our 1962 season as very good 

I wasn't alive than so couldn't tell you. 

[Lou]

Now that's a different question than the first two

[kevinb]

Just now, Lou said:

Now that's a different question than the first two

Is it tho is it really 

[Lou]

51 minutes ago, ukyah said:

 

 

that's actually the funniest thing that's happened around here for awhile. 

as far as the question goes, i think it's a mirage. it seems like a reasonable question because the two events seem either/or, but they're not. they exist on different planes of perspective. one is short term perspective and the other is long term. 

in the short term, do i want the angels to play meaningful baseball all the way to the last day of the regular season? of course i do. because i can't know that they're going to miss out on the playoffs on that last day. but if i do know that they're going to fail, then of course i would take the better draft talent, because regardless of what the common narrative may be, the truth is top ten draft picks have a significantly higher rate of making the mlb.

i'll add my own information to the topic, which is this, i believe that sustained losing seasons, which allows for the stockpiling of higher grade amateur talent, creates a culture of losing withing the organization that negates the value of the higher grade amateur talent. it's very hard to break from negative cycles and that truth is born out in everyday life.

Well said 

[Stradling]

20 minutes ago, Kevinb said:

Would missing the playoffs ever be considered s success ?

No but it can considered a very good season.  You can win 90+ games and technically miss the playoffs.  

[kevinb]

Are u people just saying the same thing now. Am I in a twilight zone episode

[kevinb]

7 minutes ago, Stradling said:

No but it can considered a very good season.  You can win 90+ games and technically miss the playoffs.  

I literally said that 

[Stradling]

I literally answered the question you asked.