Bernie's free college idea

[Make Angels Great Again]

I'm young, give me a break.

 

or

 

Child please, give me a break.

 

 

The second one.

 

I'm almost 30 and a father of two, i'm not some 18 year old kid.

[nate]

I think this picture of Sanders getting arrested in 1963 at a civil rights movement blows that out of the water.

 

 

No, it actually doesn't prove anything.

[mtangelsfan]

I think this picture of Sanders getting arrested in 1963 at a civil rights movement blows that out of the water.

 

You think a protest over 50 years ago has any bearing on who he is today? That is laughable.

[Make Angels Great Again]

So it means nothing to you that the guy literally fought in the civil rights movement 50 years ago? Speaks NOTHING to his character?

 

You guys are laughable.

[Make Angels Great Again]

He totally protested for attention.

 

LOL

[Glen]

You think a protest over 50 years ago has any bearing on who he is today? That is laughable.

 

 

I think it shows what he was willing to stand up for back then.  Perhaps he still has those same feelings.  

 

If he'd been in a photograph wearing a Klan hood would you say it has no bearing on who he is today?

[mtangelsfan]

I think it shows what he was willing to stand up for back then.  Perhaps he still has those same feelings.  

 

If he'd been in a photograph wearing a Klan hood would you say it has no bearing on who he is today?

No, why do you think he hasn't done that in the last 50 years?

Lots of people do things when they are young that have no bearing on who they are now. Would you like to be held accountable for some of the things you did when you were young?

[mtangelsfan]

So it means nothing to you that the guy literally fought in the civil rights movement 50 years ago? Speaks NOTHING to his character?

 

You guys are laughable.

No need to be testy.

[nate]

People always post the video of him talking about gay rights to Congress but as recent as 2006 he voted against gay rights.

 

http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2015/10/05/bernie_sanders_on_marriage_equality_he_s_no_longtime_champion.html

[OregonLAA]

I'm assuming there is a long thread of Bernie because he's polarizing and it warrants discussion but there isn't one of Trump because we all hate him? Is this correct?

[Glen]

I'm assuming there is a long thread of Bernie because he's polarizing and it warrants discussion but there isn't one of Trump because we all hate him? Is this correct?

 

 

Jay?

[Glen]

No, why do you think he hasn't done that in the last 50 years?

Lots of people do things when they are young that have no bearing on who they are now. Would you like to be held accountable for some of the things you did when you were young?

 

 

Way to avoid the question.  Again, if it was a picture of him at a Klan rally instead of getting arrested for protesting for civil rights, would you say it has no bearing on who he is now?

 

And yes, I know, people change as they get older.  I'm perfectly fine being held accountable for the things I did when I was young.  

[OregonLAA]

Voting for Trump is ****ing idiotic. Cruz or Bush or whoever isn't my cup of tea, but at least they were never reality TV stars. Trump is a buffoon and the fact that he has such a huge following shows me how unbelievable stupid this country can be.

[Make Angels Great Again]

People always post the video of him talking about gay rights to Congress but as recent as 2006 he voted against gay rights.

 

http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2015/10/05/bernie_sanders_on_marriage_equality_he_s_no_longtime_champion.html

 

 

http://www.sevendaysvt.com/OffMessage/archives/2015/06/30/32-years-before-scotus-decision-sanders-backed-gay-pride-march

[Make Angels Great Again]

Voting for Trump is ****ing idiotic. Cruz or Bush or whoever isn't my cup of tea, but at least they were never reality TV stars. Trump is a buffoon and the fact that he has such a huge following shows me how unbelievable stupid this country can be.

 

 

But have you met people?! If EVERYONE voted imagine who could get elected? What if they elected someone like Donald Trump? Jeez.

 

Oh, wait.

[halobob]

Both Trump and Bernie would be terrible for the middle class.  The only candidate that has given me a glimmer of hope of helping out the middle class is Cruz.  

[Make Angels Great Again]

You keep saying that, but unless you make over like 200k you would save money.

[halobob]

You keep saying that, but unless you make over like 200k you would save money.

People were saying that with Obama too...boy were they wrong.  

[mtangelsfan]

Way to avoid the question.  Again, if it was a picture of him at a Klan rally instead of getting arrested for protesting for civil rights, would you say it has no bearing on who he is now?

 

And yes, I know, people change as they get older.  I'm perfectly fine being held accountable for the things I did when I was young.

John McCain is a war hero. You must have voted for him.

[Make Angels Great Again]

Last I checked Bernie Sanders isn't Barack Obama.

[Make Angels Great Again]

Mt, it's a question of character.

Which you seem to be insistent on ignoring.

[mtangelsfan]

That is bs. It is a question of his policies.

John McCain has great character. Did you vote for him because he was war hero in the 70's?

[halobob]

Last I checked Bernie Sanders isn't Barack Obama.

LOL, let's take a look at how 1 part of Bernie's crazy tax increases will affect a restaurant owner who makes 100K per year.  A man runs a sucessful business employing 15 people at an avg of 35K per year.  One of the Bern's tax increases is a raise to payroll tax.  

• Creates a new 6.2 percent employer-side payroll tax on all wages and salaries. This is referred to by the campaign as an “income-based health care premium paid by employers.”

So this employer now owes the govnerment and extra $32,550 in payroll taxes.  Tell me how this is good for small business?  Good for a person who is working hard to run a business that makes 100K?  This is only 1 of many different taxes the Bern is going to enact.  This doesn't even count the employee side of the payroll tax so each of his employees salary is going down as well.  

[nate]

McCain has more character and credibility than any of the schmucks running now.

 

People keep saying that Bernie will save money for people under 200k but they haven't proven it.  Considering that Obama raised taxes across the board, I doubt Bernie who wants to spend way more than Obama wouldn't do the same.

[mtangelsfan]

My point is there are very few people who vote for a person because of their character. In primaries they vote for policies, in general elections they vote for parties.

What Bernie did 50 years ago would mean nothing to libs if he was a conservative or even a moderate. The same thing for conservatives