Israel vs. Palestine

[ten ocho recon scout]

24 minutes ago, gotbeer said:

At least we got Britney Griner home.

[Jason]

1 minute ago, Taylor said:

I didn't know Hamas runs the Associated Press.

Where do the AP get their info from? That’s what I’m talking about. 

[ten ocho recon scout]

34 minutes ago, Blarg said:

Culturally Jordan and Egypt are as different with Palestinans as New York is to the redneck South. Manhatten doesn't want a flood of gun toting Dukes of Hazard types as much as Jordan wants a bunch of 14 century Muslim defenders of Allah. Those countries have moved on from far right leaning Islamic beliefs. 

Well, then there's the whole thing where the Jords went to war with the PLO a few decades back because the Palestinians in Jordan revolted, tried to take over the country and kill the King. (Not the one they actually did kill, the one after him)

And so the Palestinians headed to Lebanon and.... totally got along with everyone there.

 

 

 

 

But also because Jordan is already feeding thousands and thousands of Syrian refugees.

[ten ocho recon scout]

11 minutes ago, Jason said:

Hamas is the one reporting on this, so I take that with a grain of salt but if Israel did intentionally hit this hospital that’s going to change this all up real quick. Release the drone footage.

 

6 minutes ago, Taylor said:

I didn't know Hamas runs the Associated Press.

I'm betting it was Isreal, but, to your point Taylor, the AP is relaying the message from Hamas. They aren't there confirming it (yet).

But in the interest of balance, and remembering that both sides are going to blame the other..

https://www.amnesty.org/en/location/middle-east-and-north-africa/palestine-state-of/report-palestine-state-of/

[Spirit]

13 minutes ago, St1ck said:

We already know you don't understand sarcasm Rain Man.. 

 

[ten ocho recon scout]

Again, for anyone who's interested in this current situation, you need to go back decades. And everyone should. It's not only very interesting but it's very relevant, and isn't going away anytime soon. Until Palestinians get their own country.

And until that happens the situation is going to be the lightning rod of the region.

And what you're seeing currently isn't just "Isreal vs Gaza", but Iran vs Saudi...

Anyone thinking that the possibility of the Saudis... home of the two holiest sites in Islam, copying up to normalize with Isreal of all people isn't huge is blind...

... and the reason behind it is that Iran has at this point basically taken over Iraq, with Syria as its partner, and it's firm footprint in Lebanon...

The rest of the region is choosing sides for what's coming next...

Hamas forced a response from Isreal, and Isreal's response is exactly what Tehran, I mean Gaza, wants.

Because no way can the Saudis go forward with shaking hands with the Isreal now, at least any time soon.

[cals]

36 minutes ago, Spirit said:

 

For someone to actually report the post that hurt their feelers

 

We’re not fags, only fags actually report.  There’s one on the main board if you need one.

[Spirit]

6 minutes ago, cals said:

We’re not fags, only fags actually report.  There’s one on the main board if you need one.

 

So saying you reported it, when you didn't, makes you .... ???

Bi-curious?

 

[cals]

The Palestinians are fucked either way.  What are you supposed to do when your enemy basically controls the news?  At this point I’m getting all my Middle East news from Al Jazeera. 

[cals]

3 minutes ago, Spirit said:

 

So saying you reported it, when you didn't, makes you .... ???

Bi-curious?

 

We really need Taylor’s input on this one.

[Taylor]

3 minutes ago, cals said:

We really need Taylor’s input on this one.

 

[nothing, Nothing]

9 hours ago, Redondo said:

Take it from a Palestinian refugee: Israel’s Gaza invasion is necessary and welcome

The raping, torture and murder that Hamas has committed is inexcusable

On Oct. 13, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) announced that they had entered the outskirts of the Gaza Strip. As a Palestinian refugee myself, Israel’s forthcoming liberation of the Gaza Strip is long overdue. 

Hamas perpetrated a massacre when they violated Israel on Oct. 7, and in a spree of bloodcurdling violence, they tortured and raped children, women and the elderly, murdering over 1,300 and taking an estimated 150 hostages to Gaza for continuing abuse.

As a Palestinian, I find the actions of the terrorist group beyond abhorrent. During its brutal invasion, Hamas killed, injured and abducted scores of Muslim Israelis, including Bedouins. 

Hamas, the regime that just committed shocking genocide and used rape as a weapon of war, seized military control of the Gaza Strip from the weak forces of the Palestinian Authority (PA) and local warlords in 2007. Under their regime, LGBTQ+ Palestinians are executed and public music is prohibited. Even as Hamas misgoverns the Strip as a terrorist haven, it is a much-maligned Israel that, until this week, has provided large portions of the energy, food and medical supplies that keep it functioning. 

Israel never wanted control of Gaza, and between Israel’s independence and 1967, it was controlled by Egypt, which never attempted to create a Palestinian state on its territory. Israel gained control of this territory during the 1967 Six-Day War but unilaterally departed under Ariel Sharon in the disengagement of 2005, withdrawing over 5,000 settlers.

The beginning of the experiment in Gazan self-government was not auspicious; as soon as the Israelis departed, Palestinian looters stripped and destroyed the greenhouses and other productive enterprises left behind as a goodwill gesture. For the past 18 years, there has not been a single Israeli settler or soldier in Gaza.

Since that time, Hamas has engaged in a series of escalating provocations in short and sharp conflicts, largely featuring rocket attacks rained down on Israeli cities and, in a heartbreaking national trauma, the kidnapping of Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit in 2006, who remained a hostage to Hamas forces for five years.

In hindsight, this incident was an eerie premonition of the capture and enslavement of innocents that Hamas just carried out on a massive scale. Now, on top of sexual abuse and torture, it is feared that the hostages will be used for the same purposes as Hamas has long used the Gazan people: as human shields to protect Hamas military and political assets.

Take it from a Palestinian perspective, the unforgivable brutality Hamas just displayed against Israelis is what our population has experienced from these cold-blooded murderers and thugs for the past 16 years since they took control of Gaza in 2007.

In the days and weeks ahead, innocent Palestinian blood will be on the hands of Hamas as they pay a terrible price for their villainy, as Israel does everything in its power to bring its people home. Don’t fall for the tricks of antisemites perpetrating lies about who is responsible for this war; believe your own eyes and common sense: the raping, torture and murder that Hamas has committed is inexcusable, full stop. 

Gaza’s liberation is long overdue; please, Israel, deliver our people from the wicked power of Hamas.

.https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/palestinian-refugee-israels-gaza-invasion-necessary-welcome

 

[Amazing Larry]

Reports are coming in that it was a Hamas rocket that hit the hospital. Who knows.

 

[nothing, Nothing]

2 hours ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

Starting with your first point, because this always kills me...

 

No.

The Taliban are Paks, funded by the Saudis, that emerged years after the Soviets withdrew

And they then went to war with the former Muj who we supported with money, through Pakistan.

AQ at its core was a rich Saudi and an Egyptian, who never were part of American aid. And they've admitted so themselves. The rest of the core group at the beginning was, surprise surprise, Palestians and Eqyptians (look up MAK).

This idea you're posting is a classic case of taking nuggets of truth and forming "the story". And it's not your fault. Lazy people trumped this up 2 decades ago, assuming that all Afghans must be the same ones we helped arm in the 80s. (Here's a hint, there's a reason just after 9/11 that the ones we were able to get to join us just happened to be the ones the Taliban had already been fighting the previous 5 years. It's because those were the ones we had funded the previous decade).

But literally NONE of this, including Iraq, have ANYTHING to do with Isreal / Palestine. And the Palestinian terror groups emerged literally 20 years before the Soviets invaded Afghanistan.

Your point that we support bad guys who are of help to us is correct. And we have f*cked up a million parts of the world because of it.

That doesn't make it the cause of everything bad. Suggesting it does is simply lazy.

so what you're saying is politicians and media lie , hilary must have been lying in this vid then 

 

[AngelsLakersFan]

24 minutes ago, Lhalo said:

Reports are coming in that it was a Hamas rocket that hit the hospital. Who knows.

 

Yeah they definitely blew up their own hospital. 

Impressively Israel has managed to kill zero people. Their precision guided missiles have targeted exclusively empty buildings, and the quality of their messaging has simply convinced thousands of Palestinians to commit suicide.

[Taylor]

58 minutes ago, Lhalo said:

Reports are coming in that it was a Hamas rocket that hit the hospital. Who knows.

 

You're such a dunce.

[Taylor]

31 minutes ago, AngelsLakersFan said:

Impressively Israel has managed to kill zero people. Their precision guided missiles have targeted exclusively empty buildings, and the quality of their messaging has simply convinced thousands of Palestinians to commit suicide.

Just like the U.S.!

[Taylor]

[Kotchman]

2 hours ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

Again, for anyone who's interested in this current situation, you need to go back decades. And everyone should. It's not only very interesting but it's very relevant, and isn't going away anytime soon. Until Palestinians get their own country.

And until that happens the situation is going to be the lightning rod of the region.

And what you're seeing currently isn't just "Isreal vs Gaza", but Iran vs Saudi...

Anyone thinking that the possibility of the Saudis... home of the two holiest sites in Islam, copying up to normalize with Isreal of all people isn't huge is blind...

... and the reason behind it is that Iran has at this point basically taken over Iraq, with Syria as its partner, and it's firm footprint in Lebanon...

The rest of the region is choosing sides for what's coming next...

Hamas forced a response from Isreal, and Isreal's response is exactly what Tehran, I mean Gaza, wants.

Because no way can the Saudis go forward with shaking hands with the Isreal now, at least any time soon.

This is mostly true. There may be a significant Palestinian population that want their own country but the reality is that not the goal of the Islamic leaders in the region. Palestine has always been and continues to be a propaganda machine, terrorist breeding ground, and launching point for attacks against Israel. They’ve walked away from multiple two state solutions and they could govern themselves if it happened tomorrow. They’d be overrun by terrorist or dictators within a year. 

[nothing, Nothing]

2 minutes ago, Taylor said:

they tried to use this same video last year as well ,, israel is very bad at keeping track of all their lies

[Taylor]

Just now, Lhalo said:

Haha! I'll remember that when I'm laying in my pool having a cocktail later.

And then Zero Hedge will post that home swimming pools lower your testosterone and you'll immediately hop out and drain it.

[Amazing Larry]

2 minutes ago, nothing, Nothing said:

they tried to use this same video last year as well ,, israel is very bad at keeping track of all their lies

That's a different video than the one I posted.

[Kotchman]

6 minutes ago, Taylor said:

Just like the U.S.!

 

38 minutes ago, AngelsLakersFan said:

Yeah they definitely blew up their own hospital. 

Impressively Israel has managed to kill zero people. Their precision guided missiles have targeted exclusively empty buildings, and the quality of their messaging has simply convinced thousands of Palestinians to commit suicide.

Lol. These peace loving Muslims would slit both your throats. Stop hypothesizing on the plight of these savages and go see it for yourselves. 

[Amazing Larry]

It appears these guys have confirmed that was the rocket that hit the hospital.

 

[Amazing Larry]