Stating the Obvious

[Waybackman]

Written by Lowell Cohn in March of this year. Note the fourth paragraph from the end.

http://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/20130329/news/130329403#page=3

[Ray McKigney]

Yeah, their pitching sucks.

[tomsred]

Jerry's idol is Beane.  That's why he amassing these second and third tier players.  Once he gets to 60 or 70 of them, he can rotate them all season long.

[Waybackman]

"Manager Mike Scioscia seems terminally grumpy and may be losing his touch" he lost it several years ago.

[jshep]

"Terminally Grumpy" is also the name of my new band.

[mtangelsfan]

"Manager Mike Scioscia seems terminally grumpy and may be losing his touch" he lost it several years ago.

 

I'd be grumpy too if I had this pitching staff to work with.

[kevinb]

I'd be grumpy too if I had this pitching staff to work with.

Fire Dipoto

[Angelsjunky]

Billy Beane is the best general manager in baseball. That's stating the obvious.

[Angel Oracle]

Fire Dipoto, especially if he signs Cano.

[mtangelsfan]

Billy Beane is the best general manager in baseball. That's stating the obvious.

 

you can tell by all the hardware he owns. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

or not.

[Waybackman]

I once met Billy Beane standing in line at the airport in NY. He was flying Jet Blue! I had a brief conversation with him about baseball, Angels, A's, etc. A very nice, friendly guy. No attitude at all. Even had nice things to say about the Angels. This was in 2008.

[m0nkey]

you can tell by all the hardware he owns.

or not.

So Epstein and sabean are the best gms in baseball?

[DMVol]

I'd be grumpy too if I had this pitching staff to work with.

Some of this train wreck you can pin on Scioscia but the pitching staff is squarely on DiPoto...no way to get around that....

[mtangelsfan]

So Epstein and sabean are the best gms in baseball?

 

I wasn't making the argument that they were.  I think a lot of factors should play into that.  Winning a championship should be one of the big factors thought.  It seems pretty ridiculous to bestow that ranking on somebody who hasn't done what the basic goal of every team is.

[gotbeer]

I say it's more of the pitching coaches fault than Dipoto.  

 

How is it that every pitcher that comes to the Angels gets worse?

 

Then when Walden goes to Atlanta, he goes lights out?  And Santana?  And Chatwood?  And even Kazmir becomes servicable?  

 

And I'm not talking only about retreads.  How is it Maronde, and Kohn can look so good in the minors, then turn into complete pumpkins when they get to the MLB level?  Frieri comes from a different system, and looks unstoppable.  But once in our system for a while, he looks utterly clueless?

 

When it happens once, sure it's possible.  Twice, even possible.  But after a while, when it happens over and over again, it can't be coincidence.  

[mtangelsfan]

There may be some validity to that GB, but lets not use Santana as an example, it's not like he hasn't had those kind of years for the Angels. 

 

We'll see if he keeps this up for consecutive seasons for once.

[arch stanton]

25 is also a number very close to the one representing the number of years since the A's played in a World Series. If being relevant every quarter of a century is your goal then Billy is indeed the MFM.

[WallyWorld]

Even if Scioscia stays, I can't imagine Butcher keeping his job past this season.

[Angel Oracle]

Why is it Hacker can be fired, but not Butcher?