The Official Los Angeles Angels 2023-2024 Hot Stove Offseason Thread

[Erstad Grit]

28 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

Wheeler is also a FA. He'll be 35 though.

[jeskola]

1 hour ago, Stradling said:

Is Burnes ancient? How bout Buehler? 

[AngelStew43]

Wheeler has earned his contract, to this point. 

[m0nkey]

Let's see how Buehler is after his second TJ surgery before penciling him in at the top of the class.  Thought that was a major concern with Ohtani

[Taylor]

 

 

[AngelStew43]

We are finally the best at something!

[DMVol]

 

[mmc]

 

[Dtwncbad]

58 minutes ago, Taylor said:

 

 

This is technically incorrect since the team has not improved at all.  Wouldn’t you have to improve at least a little to even make the list?

[Taylor]

13 minutes ago, Dtwncbad said:

This is technically incorrect since the team has not improved at all.  Wouldn’t you have to improve at least a little to even make the list?

I think we can assume that the teams at the bottom have all gotten worse.

[Taylor]

33 minutes ago, mmc said:

 

Is that like weightless treadmilling?

[mmc]

9 minutes ago, Taylor said:

Is that like weightless treadmilling?

 

[Angels 1961]

1 hour ago, Dtwncbad said:

This is technically incorrect since the team has not improved at all.  Wouldn’t you have to improve at least a little to even make the list?

Plesac is an improvement

[Angelsfan1984]

2 hours ago, Angels 1961 said:

Plesac is an improvement

Exactly how far have you gobbled his ding a ling? 

[tdawg87]

15 minutes ago, Angelsfan1984 said:

Exactly how far have you gobbled his ding a ling? 

Yes.

[Docwaukee]

11 hours ago, tdawg87 said:

Why can't we have one of those? Every year everything just goes to shit. We're due for some fucking luck.

I am coping.

we did in 2014.  When you have a decent payroll and run the team from year to year, you're bound to have one once in awhile.  

in the last 12 years, the Angels have a cumulative of 36 WAR from their draft picks.  

10.5 of that is David Fletcher.   Another 14 of that (or so quick glance estimate) has come from Angels draft picks but on other teams.  

so outside of that, about 1 WAR per year for over a decade.  

you make your own luck.  

 

[Taylor]

[tdawg87]

[Stradling]

20 hours ago, EdmontonAngelsFan said:

 

So now the Giants and Braves have both spent “big money” on relievers to turn them into starters.  The Braves are trying it with Lopez and now the Giants with Hicks. It feels like these are moves to help 2025 and beyond. You can’t really expect more than 100-110 innings from them this year, right? 
In general what are your thoughts on this type of move? 

[BTH]

1 hour ago, Stradling said:

In general what are your thoughts on this type of move? 

If it works, there’s big upside.

If it doesn’t work, you know you can just put them back in the pen where they’ve had success.

I’d much prefer giving López or Hicks a $9M-$11M AAV than giving like Clevinger or Ryu that same amount because if they struggle, you know you can still get value out of them.

[Erstad Grit]

Us doing that with Escobar worked amazing. He was a better SP here than Colon. 

[Stradling]

19 minutes ago, Angels 1961 said:

Relief pitchers throw 4 plus inn sometimes in 1 week. Plus warming up each time. Pitching every 5th day with most starters only going 5 inn to me not a big thing. 

So 100 innings, got it. 

[Taylor]

12 minutes ago, Erstad Grit said:

Us doing that with Escobar worked amazing. He was a better SP here than Colon. 

[UndertheHalo]

If the Angels do anything it’ll be the dumbest thing they could do.  So sign Bellinger or something.  They probably just won’t do anything though.  

[Stradling]

Tell Boras you have $325 million to spread over Montgomery and Bellinger over the next 7 years.  Figure out how you want them to divvy up the money.  Then trade Ward to get the prospect capital you lose for signing Bellinger.