Tigers willing to trade Tarik Skubal

[mmc]

This is someone we need to go after.  Not a free agent until 2027.  Would give up quite a bit

 

[Blarg]

He has been just barely league average over 2 seasons. Unless there are some metrics that says he is going to break out next season then his prospect value isn't that high. 

[T.G.]

30 minutes ago, Blarg said:

He has been just barely league average over 2 seasons. Unless there are some metrics that says he is going to break out next season then his prospect value isn't that high. 

2.93 FIP this year. 111 K's in 106.2 innings

Not that Angels have the prospects for such a trade...

[mmc]

Adell + Bachman + ?

[Second Base]

Yeah, I'd do Adell for him. Not Bachman though. I know you have to give to get, but I think we can trade from other areas of depth.

 

 

[mmc]

1 minute ago, Second Base said:

Yeah, I'd do Adell for him. Not Bachman though. I know you have to give to get, but I think we can trade from other areas of depth.

 

 

I think they would want both and more, and I’d give up pretty much any young player other than Detmers

[mmc]

Extend Ohtani and we got Ohtani, Skubal, Sandoval, and Detmers anchoring the rotation for years along with all our good young pitching prospects.  I’d give up A LOT to make that happen

[T.G.]

3 minutes ago, Second Base said:

we can trade from other areas of depth.

Edited July 26, 2022 by T.G.

[Second Base]

2 minutes ago, T.G. said:

Jo Adell, Jeremiah Jackson, Chase Silseth. 

I'd hold onto guys like Bachman, Bush, Erla, Joyce, Hidalgo. I'd rather hold onto Silseth too, if I could. 

[Second Base]

6 minutes ago, mmc said:

I think they would want both and more, and I’d give up pretty much any young player other than Detmers

I'd try Jo Adell, Jeremiah Jackson and a pitching prospect not mashed Bachman/Bush/Joyce. 

[BTH]

I'd love to get Skubal, but I'm not sure the Angels have what it takes to get Skubal (at least from the players they'd be willing to deal)

[mmc]

4 minutes ago, Trendon said:

I'd love to get Skubal, but I'm not sure the Angels have what it takes to get Skubal (at least from the players they'd be willing to deal)

Yeah I doubt it, but he’s my number one target, and I sure hope we’re at least trying 

[WeaverFever]

1 hour ago, mmc said:

Extend Ohtani and we got Ohtani, Skubal, Sandoval, and Detmers anchoring the rotation for years along with all our good young pitching prospects.  I’d give up A LOT to make that happen

That’s a very good rotation. Or should be. I like those three guys of ours a lot. One of the few bright spots on this team.

[Paolo11]

Why would the Tigers consider trading a young, cost controlled pitcher that's showing "breakout" potential?  They need to rebuild too.  Unless they think they're selling high on a guy that can't sustain his present numbers.

[mmc]

5 minutes ago, Paolo11 said:

Why would the Tigers consider trading a young, cost controlled pitcher that's showing "breakout" potential?  They need to rebuild too.  Unless they think they're selling high on a guy that can't sustain his present numbers.

My guess is they have a ton of top tier pitching prospects yet they didn’t take a step forward this year because their offense was complete shit and they want to balance it out a bit.  Not that they’re certainly trading him to accomplish this, but it’s why they’re fielding offers

[totdprods]

40 minutes ago, Paolo11 said:

Why would the Tigers consider trading a young, cost controlled pitcher that's showing "breakout" potential?  They need to rebuild too.  Unless they think they're selling high on a guy that can't sustain his present numbers.

Echoes of the Quintana deal that netted the White Sox Jimenez and Cease. And kinda the same reason I've floated Sandoval as someone the Angels should listen on (but again, not move unless totally overwhelmed). 

Like @mmc said, Skubal has enough trade value that they can turn one player with big value - who still could breakout but also, isn't necessarily proven to be a star, much like Sandoval - into several good players because of that value, which they really have a need for given how bad their position players have been the last several years. And they believe they have the pitching depth to sustain it, or, aren't setting expectations so high in 2023 that they'd be make or break with or without Skubal.

[BTH]

3 hours ago, mmc said:

My guess is they have a ton of top tier pitching prospects yet they didn’t take a step forward this year because their offense was complete shit and they want to balance it out a bit.  Not that they’re certainly trading him to accomplish this, but it’s why they’re fielding offers

they don't really have a ton of top tier pitching prospects

their GM, Al Avila, may be among the top 3 worst GMs in baseball (along with Dayton Moore and Bill Schmidt) and has them stuck in the middle of nowhere

[mmc]

5 minutes ago, Trendon said:

they don't really have a ton of top tier pitching prospects

their GM, Al Avila, may be among the top 3 worst GMs in baseball (along with Dayton Moore and Bill Schmidt) and has them stuck in the middle of nowhere

I guess most have graduated, but they have a ton of young pitching talent, Mize, Skubal, Faedo, Jobe, Madden, Manning

[TroutField]

I guess all the consistent Angels losing has caught up with me. I used to know almost every player on every team, now I have no idea who the hell this guy is that is apparently a decent starting pitcher. 
Been harder to pay attention to baseball with nothing to look forward to other than Ohtani 

[ten ocho recon scout]

Does he throw a screwball? If not he should.

[Lou]

29 minutes ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

Does he throw a screwball? If not he should.

There it is.

[Angelsjunky]

Skubal is a former 60 FV prospect who has actualized his 60 FV potential, is 25 and with four more years of club control.

Adell is a former 60/65 FV prospect who is threatening to be a bust; he's probably more a 50 FV equivalent now.

Bachman is rated as 45 FV right now, though I think he was 50 FV last year. Can't remember.

So yeah, I think Adell + Bachman might get Skubal, but they'd probably want a third 40 FV prospect or better. Someone like Vera or Placencia.

[Angels 1961]

6 hours ago, Lou said:

There it is.

No but he drinks screw drivers