I didn't realize it was this bad

[gurn67]

I knew it was bad, but this is ridiculous.

 

Angels' record vs. the Astros since 2016? 37-72

2016 6-13

2017 7-12

2018 6-13

2019 5-14

2020 6-4

2021 6-13

2022 1-3

 

In the immortal words of Ric Flair "To be the man, you gotta beat the man!"

They need to get it done on the field. Period. No excuses.

 

[Blarg]

Next time set your alarm clock. 

[Angelsjunky]

The Astros have been one of the best teams in baseball since then - certainly the best in the AL.

Actually, if we go back to 2015 when the Astros became good, they have the second best record in the majors after the Dodgers. The Angels are 18th. If we go back to 2017 when the Astros got really good, they're still second best behind the Dodgers, but the Angels drop to 20th.

So it isn't surprising. The Astros have averaged 99-63 over 162 games from 2017-22. The Angels have averaged 77-85. If we expand to 2015-22, the Astros have averaged 95-67, the Angels 78-84.

Or in plain English, the Astros have been a great team for the last 8 years, while the Angels have been below average. Great teams tend to beat below average teams the majority of the time. 

[rottiesworld]

24 minutes ago, gurn67 said:

I knew it was bad, but this is ridiculous.

 

Angels' record vs. the Astros since 2016? 37-72

2016 6-13

2017 7-12

2018 6-13

2019 5-14

2020 6-4

2021 6-13

2022 1-3

 

In the immortal words of Ric Flair "To be the man, you gotta beat the man!"

They need to get it done on the field. Period. No excuses.

 

So what your saying is were the Astros bitch 

[Angel Oracle]

18 hours ago, Angelsjunky said:

The Astros have been one of the best teams in baseball since then - certainly the best in the AL.

Actually, if we go back to 2015 when the Astros became good, they have the second best record in the majors after the Dodgers. The Angels are 18th. If we go back to 2017 when the Astros got really good, they're still second best behind the Dodgers, but the Angels drop to 20th.

So it isn't surprising. The Astros have averaged 99-63 over 162 games from 2017-22. The Angels have averaged 77-85. If we expand to 2015-22, the Astros have averaged 95-67, the Angels 78-84.

Or in plain English, the Astros have been a great team for the last 8 years, while the Angels have been below average. Great teams tend to beat below average teams the majority of the time. 

Good point, except that the Halos have been horrible record wise against the Cheatin Asstros, despite averaging 77 wins from 2016 forward.

At some point, it has to be said that they’ve let them get into their heads, and that has to stop.

Edited April 19, 2022 by Angel Oracle

[Jason]

18 hours ago, rottiesworld said:

So what your saying is were the Astros bitch 

Indeed they are 

[Make Angels Great Again]

The Astros are easily my most hated team now.

[Jason]

8 minutes ago, Make Angels Great Again said:

The Astros are easily my most hated team now.

I think there may be a similar sentiment around the league 

[HanfordGuy]

17 minutes ago, Make Angels Great Again said:

The Astros are easily my most hated team now.

You’re going to make the Yankees cry…

[Dtwncbad]

I don’t hate the Astros nearly as much as I hate the lack of winning by the Angels.

I can’t really bother wasting time hating the Astros when the Angels haven’t really even been close.

[Angelsjunky]

28 minutes ago, Angel Oracle said:

Good point, except that the Halos have been horrible record wise against the Cheatin Asstros, despite averaging 77 wins from 2016 forward.

At some point, it has to be said that they’ve let them get into their heads, and that has to stop.

I'm saying that their record against the Astros makes sense, considering how much better the Astros have been. 95-win teams usually beat 77-win teams more often than not. I don't know what the exact percentage is, but it probably isn't far from what their actual matchup is.

[Jason]

5 minutes ago, Dtwncbad said:

I don’t hate the Astros nearly as much as I hate the lack of winning by the Angels.

I can’t really bother wasting time hating the Astros when the Angels haven’t really even been close.

Good point

[Angel Oracle]

34 minutes ago, Dtwncbad said:

I don’t hate the Astros nearly as much as I hate the lack of winning by the Angels.

I can’t really bother wasting time hating the Astros when the Angels haven’t really even been close.

I hate both.

The Cheatin Asstros have gotten away with far too much.

[nando714]

The Astros are the angels daddy 

eh could be worse 

[fan_since79]

But...but...it was supposed to be different this year with Trout and Rendon healthy, and the young sluggers Walsh and Marsh coming into their own.

 

Oh yeah...the pitching. Forgot about that. 

[Dtwncbad]

17 minutes ago, Angel Oracle said:

I hate both.

The Cheatin Asstros have gotten away with far too much.

I guess.  But if you wiped the Astros off the face of the earth 8 years ago, the Angels still sucked and pathetically had zero postseason success.

I really don’t care about what the Astros have “gotten away with” when the Angel house has not in been in order.  At all.

[Duren, Duren]

And their broadcasters are smug as hell when referencing the Angels. Expecting them to choke or self implode. Which they predictably do regularly. It's getting sick watching the Astros acting so confidently against whatever lineup the Angels use.  

I also am losing patience with Madden. His team is terrible on the base paths and in the field, making bush league plays and out of sync collectively. Madden has gotten too cute and seemingly undisciplined strategically. 

[Hubs]

I mean let them get away with cheating for years and this is what happens. 

[stormngt]

21 hours ago, Angelsjunky said:

The Astros have been one of the best teams in baseball since then - certainly the best in the AL.

Actually, if we go back to 2015 when the Astros became good, they have the second best record in the majors after the Dodgers. The Angels are 18th. If we go back to 2017 when the Astros got really good, they're still second best behind the Dodgers, but the Angels drop to 20th.

So it isn't surprising. The Astros have averaged 99-63 over 162 games from 2017-22. The Angels have averaged 77-85. If we expand to 2015-22, the Astros have averaged 95-67, the Angels 78-84.

Or in plain English, the Astros have been a great team for the last 8 years, while the Angels have been below average. Great teams tend to beat below average teams the majority of the time. 

Was it 2013 when we were calling them Lastros and ecstatic that they were moving to AL West?

[Jason]

Just now, stormngt said:

Was it 2013 when we were calling them Lastros and ecstatic that they were moving to AL West?

Those were good times 

[Tank]

the astros have had a remarkable run of success, and they've pounded the halos consistently in that time.

i'm at the point where i don't expect the angels to beat them. any different outcome than that is a pleasant surprise.

the good news is that once this series is over, we only play them 12 more times this year.

[eligrba]

10 minutes ago, Tank said:

the good news is that once this series is over, we only play them 12 more times this year.

[Palomar]

You could say one of the reasons the Astros have had such a great winning percentage IS because they routinely beat the Angels.  I imagine all the other AL West teams hate it when they play us.

[Angelsjunky]

1 hour ago, stormngt said:

Was it 2013 when we were calling them Lastros and ecstatic that they were moving to AL West?

Karma's a bitch.

[bloodbrother]

The org that's significantly better run from top to bottom vs the Angels is absolutely destroying them yearly. The record is about what you'd expect all things considered. I'd say the bigger concern is that the Angels just don't ever seem to be closing the gap on them, despite the Astros losing some significant talent over the years in FA