Who do you think wins the internal SS battle?

[Hubs]

All of these guys are on the 40, except Stefanic. But he was a AAA all-star thanks to his bat. Which is your preferred SS if they stay in house?

I'd say Offensively Stefanic and Davis are the best hitters, after last year's minors showing. Rengifo could put it all together. Velazquez is probably the best defensively, and Wade is a multiple position lefty.

Most likely it's gonna be a combo of these guys, but...

[Angels 1961]

Halo SS will be a Story all spring

[mmc]

Wade with Velasquez as the bench MIF or vice versa

[Angelsfan1984]

Wade was my vote. Ideally I’d want to keep fletcher at 2b.

rengifo/Velasquez could platoon. 

[Taylor]

[Docwaukee]

Maddon has already decided on Velazquez.  There is no competition.  He's smart.  

[Dtwncbad]

The person who plays the most games at SS for the Angels in 2022 is not listed.

It’s gonna be Trevor Story.

[Blarg]

Stop it. You guys are winding up like you do with all free agents then get all butt hurt when they go somewhere else. The Angels are not going out of house for a SS. This is where the budget is set, homegrown outfield and infield outside of Rendon. 

[Dtwncbad]

2 minutes ago, Blarg said:

Stop it. You guys are winding up like you do with all free agents then get all butt hurt when they go somewhere else. The Angels are not going out of house for a SS. This is where the budget is set, homegrown outfield and infield outside of Rendon. 

Maybe.  We will see.  But Story is a good fit for an immediate need, especially compared to rolling the dice with the “internal” candidates.

I am not going to be “butt hurt” if they don’t get him.  I am just observing that he would be an obvious fit for an immediate need.

[Blarg]

I never base roster decisions on immediate needs because the future requires attention. Positioning the roster to extend Ohtani while also feeding it with cost controlled fielders is the only way the pitching staff receives the budget it requires to be competitive. 

[Dtwncbad]

9 minutes ago, Blarg said:

I never base roster decisions on immediate needs because the future requires attention. Positioning the roster to extend Ohtani while also feeding it with cost controlled fielders is the only way the pitching staff receives the budget it requires to be competitive. 

No issue with your stance.  But at some point this team needs to actually win.  Ohtani isn’t going to want to be here if the culture is to keep losing.

So while I don’t disagree with the angle you express, I personally would not be surprised at all if they make a move that is decidedly about winning now (next 1-2 yrs).

[T.G.]

11 minutes ago, Blarg said:

I never base roster decisions on immediate needs because the future requires attention. Positioning the roster to extend Ohtani while also feeding it with cost controlled fielders is the only way the pitching staff receives the budget it requires to be competitive. 

You make the roster decisions now?

[eligrba]

Will anyone on the list really be any worse than what was there last year?

[Mark68]

2 hours ago, Taylor said:

[Mark68]

How much would Jonathan Villar cost?

[Revad]

1 minute ago, Mark68 said:

How much would Jonathan Villar cost?

Maybe $7-9 million as a guess.  Good for 1-2 War.

[Mark68]

Just now, Revad said:

Maybe $7-9 million as a guess.  Good for 1-2 War.

He had 1.7 WAR (BB-Ref) last year. Why not?

[AngelsLakersFan]

6 hours ago, eligrba said:

Will anyone on the list really be any worse than what was there last year?

Probably not. And just like last year 77 wins is a fair projection for this season's win total as well.

[Docwaukee]

25 minutes ago, AngelsLakersFan said:

Probably not. And just like last year 77 wins is a fair projection for this season's win total as well.

actually, I think we'll win about 85 games.  which is why it' been horrendously frustrating to watch a shit ton of opportunities to improve pass us by while we instead opt for 'internal' options at SS, no MIF depth, no corner IF depth, a 1yr pitcher as our big signing who hasn't pitched in 2 years, another 1yr signing for a 'starter' who's never started and a 2nd catcher who is just a horrible baseball player.  

At this point I just want to watch Trout, Ohtani, Adell, Marsh, Sandoval, Canning, Suarez, Detmers and a bunch of the potential young pen arms.  I just hope they avoid any last minute stupid trades that weaken the mlb team in other spots.  I do like most of the pen though.  

[AngelsLakersFan]

2 minutes ago, Dochalo said:

actually, I think we'll win about 85 games.  which is why it' been horrendously frustrating to watch a shit ton of opportunities to improve pass us by while we instead opt for 'internal' options at SS, no MIF depth, no corner IF depth, a 1yr pitcher as our big signing who hasn't pitched in 2 years, another 1yr signing for a 'starter' who's never started and a 2nd catcher who is just a horrible baseball player.  

At this point I just want to watch Trout, Ohtani, Adell, Marsh, Sandoval, Canning, Suarez, Detmers and a bunch of the potential young pen arms.  I just hope they avoid any last minute stupid trades that weaken the mlb team in other spots.  I do like most of the pen though.  

Are you sure you think they'll win 85 games?

[Lou]

34 minutes ago, AngelsLakersFan said:

Are you sure you think they'll win 85 games?

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[HanfordGuy]

I just don’t think Rengifo is an everyday bat unless he starts driving the ball into the gap more and utilizing his speed.

[Docwaukee]

1 hour ago, AngelsLakersFan said:

Are you sure you think they'll win 85 games?

83-87.  They're probably a pretty good team.  Just not as good as they could have been.  

[AngelsLakersFan]

2 hours ago, Lou said:

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1 hour ago, Dochalo said:

83-87.  They're probably a pretty good team.  Just not as good as they could have been.  

Part of me thinks this will be the year things just inexplicably all go their way. It would have to happen right when I completely give up on the organization. 

[AngelsLakersFan]

2 hours ago, HanfordGuy said:

I just don’t think Rengifo is an everyday bat unless he starts driving the ball into the gap more and utilizing his speed.

I just decided that everything is going to inexplicably go right this year, so obviously Rengifo is an all star.