Gameday Thread: Angels vs. Astros (4-24-2021) Let's Start A Winning Streak!!

[Blarg]

8 minutes ago, Lou said:

and Blarg suddenly disappears.

Again. 

I didn't bother with college after my sophomore year since it wasn't going to help with my major focus and would just be burning money. So I don't have some perverted obsession with school bragging rights. But you do so you and Canning can go to booster parties together. 

That and I was in the beer line. 

[Lou]

Just now, Blarg said:

I didn't bother with college after my sophomore year since it wasn't going to help with my major focus and would just be burning money. So I don't have some perverted obsession with school bragging rights. But you do so you and Canning can go to booster parties together. 

That and I was in the beer line. 

Where did you spend that year and a half?

[Angels in 2030]

2 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

Explain this then...   https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=sta&lg=all&qual=0&type=8&season=2021&month=0&season1=2021&ind=0&team=0,ts&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0&startdate=2021-01-01&enddate=2021-12-31

It's not about you or those who disagreeing with you being the village idiot, it's just more than just simple ERA.  

People don't want to believe in things like luck, but when you have a guy like Cobb allow one ball hit over 80MPH the other night and give up a BaBip of nearly .700 ... how else does one explain that.  The other thing really sticking out right now is the LOB%.. 61.9%   Angels RPs have done the absolute worst job of allowing inherited runners to score this year.  Most people will tell you that strand rate is pretty much noise and I tend to believe, but what isn't noise has been the actual bullpen management.  It's been bad.

But as a whole the SPs haven't been the real drain save for Canning.  He's definitely been the weak link, and his issue is 100% a sudden onset of gopher-itis.   He's allowing HRs on 35.3% of all FBs hit after todays game -- nearly triple his career average.

Hey, believe me, I hope those advance stats prove to be correct and we see good results going forward.  
But it’s the same excuse song & dance year after year.  At some point though you got to admit that you are what your record is - and that’s mediocre at best for the Angels.  

[Inside Pitch]

11 minutes ago, True Grich said:

I guess IP isn't buying Fourts a cookie

I dont blame him or anyone for thinking -- oh shit it's more of the same.   But it hasn't been really.   I have my concerns -- namely the defense, but basing it strictly on the sort of data that people have been wanting the Angels to adhere to and complaints that they have failed to do it, the SPs are actually looking good.   The thing is, the sample size is small enough where we don't know which set of numbers are the good ones and which set are the bad ones.   

The ERA could finally start to normalize and come closer to what the predictive data says it should be, or whatever fakery has been happening to drive the K rates up, the GB rates down might go in the other direction then BAM...   OH SHIT IT'S more of the same.

But right now the SP is doing what Upton did last year early in the season -- it's failing to live up to what the predictive data says they should be doing.   

The elephant in the room -- Maddon's needs to show his genius.

[Blarg]

Two years and why does it matter to you? Really why does it matter? I'm 40 years past that time in my life and it held no attraction, it's was more an obligation than anything else. I was smart enough to walk away rather than run up a bill on a worthlesspiece of paper for what I wanted to do. 

So tell me, what does it really matter to you?

[nando714]

Looking ahead at the schedule 

it doesn’t get any easier 

we could be chasing the division from 7-10 games behind come early may. 

[Lou]

Just now, nando714 said:

Looking ahead at the schedule 

it doesn’t get any easier 

we could be chasing the division from 7-10 games behind come early may. 

That's in a week.

 

 

 

Fuck!

[Inside Pitch]

2 minutes ago, Fourts said:

Hey, believe me, I hope those advance stats prove to be correct and we see good results going forward.  
But it’s the same excuse song & dance year after year.  At some point though you got to admit that you are what your record is - and that’s mediocre at best for the Angels.  

But it wasnt last year.  or the year before.   All that advance data pretty much argued the pitching was bad and things were exactly what we were seeing.   That's the difference -- right now the information is saying what we are seeing is a false read...  So yeah, we have to suck it up and let it play out.

[Blarg]

1 minute ago, nando714 said:

Looking ahead at the schedule 

it doesn’t get any easier 

we could be chasing the division from 7-10 games behind come early may. 

Looking ahead I'm playing 18 holes of golf tomorrow instead of watching the Angels. 

 

[fan_since79]

1 minute ago, nando714 said:

Looking ahead at the schedule 

it doesn’t get any easier 

we could be chasing the division from 7-10 games behind come early may. 

...and May is rather brutal.

[Inside Pitch]

3 minutes ago, nando714 said:

Looking ahead at the schedule 

it doesn’t get any easier 

we could be chasing the division from 7-10 games behind come early may. 

Doesnt matter who they play man.   They just need to not fuck it up.   They have been finding ways to fuck it up.   There have been three games this year they stood no chance in, the rest they were in, some of them they completely gave away.

[fan_since79]

2 minutes ago, nando714 said:

Looking ahead at the schedule 

it doesn’t get any easier 

we could be chasing the division from 7-10 games behind come early may. 

I hope Oakland manages to lose a game or two in the next month.

[Inside Pitch]

3 minutes ago, fan_since79 said:

I hope Oakland manages to lose a game or two in the next month.

Let them break their record for most wins in a row so long as long we see the same sort of results in the postseason.

[Lou]

7 minutes ago, Blarg said:

Two years and why does it matter to you? Really why does it matter? I'm 40 years past that time in my life and it held no attraction, it's was more an obligation than anything else. I was smart enough to walk away rather than run up a bill on a worthlesspiece of paper for what I wanted to do. 

So tell me, what does it really matter to you?

lol someone's getting very defensive.

Just answer the question, Claire.

[T.G.]

IP, so you are buying him a cookie?

[Angelsjunky]

I do think the "same song and dance" applies in a general way, regardless of underlying statistics. But in the end, the Angels can only control so much. They can control who they sign and how much they put into player development, but they can't control freak injuries or Lady Luck. Right now, the pendulum has swung towards the negative in the uncontrollable factors, with their two best players hurt and SP woes. But as IP points out, that will equalize over the course of the season.

t doesn't mean that the 7-3 version is the real version, but it does mean that the 2-7 is even less close to their actual expected talent level.

[Blarg]

2 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

Doesnt matter who they play man.   They just need to not fuck it up.   They have been finding ways to fuck it up.   There have been three games this year they stood no chance in, the rest they were in, some of them they completely gave away.

I have one rule I teach all my new assists, don't fuck up and they follow it.

It appears I need to have a talk with the team. I'll have @Tank set up a lunch date.

[AngelStew43]

IMO, time to bring back Sandoval and Suarez, and bring up Detmers.  Guerra is AAA filler right now, and so is Rowen.  

[Blarg]

3 minutes ago, Lou said:

lol someone's getting very defensive.

Just answer the question, Claire.

You are the one getting defensive every time I post Bruin when Canning shits the bed. You can't have it both ways. 

But from now on I think I'll ignore where these guys came from because it probably has no bearing on what they are doing now.

[Angels in 2030]

12 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

But it wasnt last year.  or the year before.   All that advance data pretty much argued the pitching was bad and things were exactly what we were seeing.   

Sorry - I didn’t mean the excuse of stats.  I meant overall having an excuse for the bad P results year after year - injuries, bad defense, bad luck, etc.  It’s always something.  One common thing is the Angels have a mediocre or worse than league average team.  While having the best player in baseball and a top 15-30% payroll.  How/why?!?!?

[ScottT]

Glad I didn't go to Texas for this series 

[Lou]

Just now, Blarg said:

You are the one getting defensive every time I post Bruin when Canning shits the bed. You can't have it both ways. 

But from now on I think I'll ignore where these guys came from because it probably has no bearing on what they are doing now.

It's a simple question. Nothing to be embarrassed about. 

[beatlesrule]

This is brutal. At least it's in Houston.

[AngelsFaninGA]

Frankly if this team finishes .500 and has a top 10 offense going forward I'm satisfied. I've given up on any iteration of GM/Manager/players putting together a good pitching staff and making a deep playoff run. 

[Blarg]

2 minutes ago, Lou said:

It's a simple question. Nothing to be embarrassed about. 

I'm not. I'm also not playing your childish game.

Bruin that roots for Alabama.