Mike Trout for MVP & Shohei Ohtani for AL ROY in the same season?

[tdawg87]

Frank Stallone 1969

[Puget Sound Angel]

That's a real stretch for a team 15 games out of first place.

[Angelsjunky]

Burt Reynolds in Stroker Ace.

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

5 hours ago, Vegas Halo Fan said:

I don't see the ROY going to a DH, and I don't believe that Ohtani has pitched enough to get many votes for that. IMO Betts is a lock for MVP.

Ohtani is the front runner for ROY, and there is a slim chance Trout wins MVP. If Betts and J D dilute the ballot.

[mulwin444]

Ohtani - 2.6 WAR as a hitter and 1.2 WAR as a pitcher with 3.8 WAR overall

Andujar - 1.8 WAR

Torres - 2.7 WAR

Ontani "should" win but his competitors are Yankees so nothing is assured

Trout, though, has an even tougher path ahead for MVP.

Betts is leading the league in WAR at 9.7 (1.8 of that is defensive) and plays on the best team in baseball.  Trout is going to have to explode offensively to even get in the conversation...likely his average would have to be in the high-.320's minimum and have to get 40 HRs.  He'd also need both Betts and Martinez to start slumping to get their numbers close and, even, then it's likely not going to happen unless the vote for MVP is severely split between Betts and Martinez.

Mike won in 2016 over Betts, even though the Angels were out of the playoffs, because of his 10.5 to 9.7 WAR advantage but he's likely not going to have that difference again.

 

Obviously no crystal ball, but Ohtani has a better shot at Rookie of the Year than Trout does at MVP

[Angel Oracle]

Road OPS (approximate) for top 5 MVP candidates:

Trout: 1.100,  Betts: 1.000,  Martinez: .970,  Ramirez: .920,  Bregman: .900

Betts and Martinez get to play about 45% of their road games in AL East band boxes.

Ramirez gets to feast on weak AL Central pitching for almost half of the games.  

 

[Tank]

ralston schmidt, MVP and ROY in the same year:

1967, 69, 70, 72, 84, 89, 92-94, 99, and 2001.

[m0nkey]

1 minute ago, Tank said:

ralston schmidt, MVP and ROY in the same year:

1967, 69, 70, 72, 84, 89, 92-94, 99, and 2001.

You left out 1945. Easy to forget, since he’s most remembered for beating out Ted Williams for Most Valuable Navy Man for WWII

[MrClutch]

Betts is the MVP this year and Martinez will probably take 2nd after Ramirez's semi-collapse.  

Boston has had too good of a year for Betts not to get it.  

[happybat4]

I think Trout is a safe second