Northern California shooting

[ten ocho recon scout]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/11/15/california-gunmans-wife-found-dead-in-home-authorities-say.html

Not sure if a craig. Sounds like it could have been far worse, but he couldnt get into a school.

[gotbeer]

We are talking about it in the thoughts and prayers thread in the political forum.  Because guns.

[Blarg]

It's in the thoughts and prayers thread but you are right, the School went on immediate lockdown and kept the guy out. I worry about my wife in these situations because she would be a human shield if it ever took place on her campus. Every school year she goes through how the kids are to hide in the classroom or where to go if they are on the playground. We never once had this drill growing up, it was all about hiding under the desk in case of a nuclear attack.

[ten ocho recon scout]

Gotcha. Havent been to the politics forum in a year or so....you guys get rowdy as hell in those parts

[Blarg]

A woman, who identified herself as Neal's mother, told the Associated Press news agency that Neal called her before the attack and said: "I'm on a cliff and there's nowhere to go."

She said Neal was in a long-running dispute with neighbours who he believed were cooking methamphetamine.

She added that Neal, who was raised in North Carolina, had been working as a cannabis farmer and had recently married his long-time girlfriend.

This is not a subtle detail to leave out of the story. I found it on the BBC news service but not on any of the stories posted here. 

So we have this deranged guy that is growing pot in a dispute with his neighbors he claimed were meth dealers. Add in a lifetime of anger issues, an enabling mother, some ilegally obtained guns and a police force that just wasn't going to search his house after an arrest for knifing a neighbor, and people are shocked something happened.

 

[wopphil]

We need to return to the days of labotomizong the crazies.

[Tank]

1 hour ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

Gotcha. Havent been to the politics forum in a year or so....you guys get rowdy as hell in those parts

we have issues.

[Tank]

3 hours ago, Blarg said:

It's in the thoughts and prayers thread but you are right, the School went on immediate lockdown and kept the guy out. I worry about my wife in these situations because she would be a human shield if it ever took place on her campus. Every school year she goes through how the kids are to hide in the classroom or where to go if they are on the playground. We never once had this drill growing up, it was all about hiding under the desk in case of a nuclear attack.

yep, we have to plan for it, also, ever since sandy hook.

the problem is that our classrooms weren't designed for anything remotely like this so there really aren't very good places to shelter. we also have doors made out of something just a notch above balsa wood, so if someone really wants to come it, the deadbolt isn't going to stop him. i've already run through a lot of nightmarish scenes in my head on steps i'll need to take to protect the kids, and none of them end terribly well for me. but i think i'm prepared to act when needed, and hoping like mad it'll never come down to that.

[ten ocho recon scout]

I would say that if we arent for everyone owning guns (which im not), armed security is something that should be discussed more and more.

As a cop id like to say it eould be us, but were obviously going to get there AFTER the bad things start.

[Keener]

Reporting today that they found his wife dead under their floor. Killed her on monday.  So 6 dead.

 

[ten ocho recon scout]

It seems like this one isnt really getting too much pub, because 6 dead isnt as sensational...which is depressing.

Again, this one could have been far more tragic.

[Keener]

I absolutely agree.  This was close to home for me, literally and figuratively.  Living in a rural area you sometimes feel like "it won't happen here".  As dumb as that is. 

Our schools (1 kid in high school, another in elementary) are introducing the "alice" program, which is teaching kids, teachers, administrators to do more than sit and wait to be targets.  Sobering to think about the possibility of your 7 year old being confronted with such a situation.