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29 minutes ago, Tank said:

wow. why was he let go? seems like someone you'd aggressively hang on to.

Mike Morin was also good in the minors and meh in the bigs. 

Eppler's recent successes have me feeling good though. Really the only pitchers he's brought in that were outright terrible were Lincecum, Huff, and maybe Oberholtzer. Even the ones that didn't pan out weren't really terrible, or at least any worse than they had been prior.

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Just now, totdprods said:

Mike Morin was also good in the minors and meh in the bigs. 

Eppler's recent successes have me feeling good though. Really the only pitchers he's brought in that were outright terrible were Lincecum, Huff, and maybe Oberholtzer. Even the ones that didn't pan out weren't really terrible, or at least any worse than they had been prior.

Did you forget about Pounders,

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4 minutes ago, stormngt said:

Did you forget about Pounders,

Pounders has been terrible. 

Kinda interesting, he's been pretty effective at SLC as a reliever, and he actually had a run of 7 games spread around with the Halos where he wasn't bad. But he was awful in his first game and awful in his last three. 

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"Ramirez has a history of missing bats and posting solid ERA marks in Triple-A (9.9 K/9, 2.60 ERA in 135 innings there), but he’s averaged just under 90 mph on his fastball as a big leaguer. He’s in his final option year, so the Angels can send him to Triple-A for the time being but would need to carry him on the 40-man roster all winter and put him on the Opening Day roster next year if they wish to avoid exposing him to waivers after the end of the current season."

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/08/angels-claim-noe-ramirez.html

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1 hour ago, totdprods said:

Pounders has been terrible. 

Kinda interesting, he's been pretty effective at SLC as a reliever, and he actually had a run of 7 games spread around with the Halos where he wasn't bad. But he was awful in his first game and awful in his last three. 

He has a 27.6% K-BB% against RHH's. For reference Yusmeiro Petit is carrying a 34.2% against RHP. There's something there in his strikeout ability but he has to rein in the walks, particularly against LHH's and he has clearly given up too many hits (partially bad BABIP luck) and unfortunately too many HR's.

Pounders is a project that could still work out and I'm sure the Angels will work on him this off-season.

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35 minutes ago, ettin said:

He has a 27.6% K-BB% against RHH's. For reference Yusmeiro Petit is carrying a 34.2% against RHP. There's something there in his strikeout ability but he has to rein in the walks, particularly against LHH's and he has clearly given up too many hits (partially bad BABIP luck) and unfortunately too many HR's.

Pounders is a project that could still work out and I'm sure the Angels will work on him this off-season.

Probably pitch location.  Could be ball movement.  Might be velocity. Possibly ball spin.  Small chance it is release point. 

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9 hours ago, Tank said:

okay, don't know what that has to do with anything, but with the numbers noe has put up, my question is still why was he released?

Both are just fringe 40-man roster relievers at this point who have done well in the minors but not much in the majors. Would we question a Morin DFA if it happened in a couple weeks?

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2 hours ago, totdprods said:

Both are just fringe 40-man roster relievers at this point who have done well in the minors but not much in the majors. Would we question a Morin DFA if it happened in a couple weeks?

still not sure why you keep bringing up morin, unless his minor league numbers are comparable to what noe has done.

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30 minutes ago, Tank said:

still not sure why you keep bringing up morin, unless his minor league numbers are comparable to what noe has done.

You were wondering why the Red Sox would let a pitcher with good minor league numbers go, and not aggressively hang onto him. 
In very broad, simple terms, he has been good in the minors, but he hasn't been good at the majors, and the Red Sox needed a spot on the 40 man. 
Mike Morin is an example of someone who has been good in the minors, not good in the majors, and could be bumped from the 40 man if the Angels need space.

Some team would claim a Mike Morin type and a poster would probably say "Wow, good minor league numbers, why didn't the Angels hold onto him? Seems like they need bullpen help"

Sure, there is probably a deeper reasoning and something the Angels see that made them feel he was worth a claim, but it could also be just them nabbing a depth arm, like Magnifico earlier in the year.

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