Darvish

[wopphil]

Should be a top priority this off-season. Realistically, he is going to cost at least 6/160, maybe more. Anyone interested in him at that number?

Darvish likely brings more value than the combination of Richards, Nolasco and Chavez, who have combined for injured mediocrity (at a cost of $20 mil). 

[Billy_Ball]

If the Rangers are sellers, the Cubs will be renting him.

[floplag]

I dont think all the pitching in the world will help if we cant score more runs.   We have too many potential holes on the offense for next year to invest that much in a starter in my opinion.  
One we have viable starters for LF, 1b, 3B, and 2B in place, then ask me again.  

[ettin]

What I am most afraid of is that the Dodgers, who are currently trying to obtain Darvish, will pick him up, sign him in the off-season and use him and Maeda as ambassadors to convince Otani to come to the wrong team in Los Angeles. Rich get richer.

[Second Base]

Baseball is a simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball etc...

The Angels have had problems throwing the ball. Whenever their pitchers do it, they get hurt. 

The Angels are pretty good at catching the ball, which we shouldn't take for granted, because given how this team operates, it wouldn't surprise me to see a bunch of broken hands every time they try to turn a double play.

And finally, with the exception of three players (Trout, Simmons and Calhoun) they just aren't that good at hitting the Ball.

We have bigger fish to fry than paying for Darvish. Besides, he'd probably get hurt just by pitching in the same vicinity as Richards and Skaggs.

[Catwhoshatinthehat]

I'm more afraid of the Angels throwing that much money at a soon to be 31 year old starting pitcher who has thrown over 2,000 innings between Japan and the US while pitching less than 250 innings from 2014-2016 due to injuries.  This seems like one of those situations where a guy who has had a major injury has a good year in a contract year, gets overpaid and it's very likely that whoever signs him is regretting the last few years of his back loaded contract. 

Also I agree that the Angels have so many other needs that I don't want to see them make a move like this in the coming off season.  Currently they're bottom 5 in all of baseball in runs scored per game, OBP, SLG and OPS.  In the AL they're dead last in runs scored per game, 2nd to last in OBP, last in SLG and last in OPS.  Trout missing time obviously impacts these numbers but even if he hadn't been injured they have a lot of holes on offense.  Meanwhile in all of baseball they're middle of the pack in team ERA, starters ERA and 8th in reliever ERA.  The pitching has outperformed any reasonable expectations given the injuries they've had. 

[nando714]

Fvck YU we got Darvish and Pujols! 

[Troll Daddy]

No telling what the FO is willing to pay for Darvish. No doubt they be watching out of the corner of their eye.

[Docwaukee]

Nice player.  I have a really hard time with throwing a ton of money at any pitcher entering their age 31 season who have a history of TJ surgery.  You're likely to get solid production for age 31-33, but then you have 34-36 to deal with.  

[Lou]

22 minutes ago, Scotty@AW said:

And finally, with the exception of three players (Trout, Simmons and Calhoun) they just aren't that good at hitting the Ball.

Calhoun? 

[Lou]

There is no way in hell we outbid everyone for Darvish. 

[IEAngelsfan]

3 minutes ago, Lou said:

There is no way in hell we outbid everyone for Darvish. 

Nor should we.

I'm very leery of signing Darvish.  He's got a lot of miles on that arm and he's not getting younger.  All we need is another albatross contract.

[Lou]

I agree 

[Angelsjunky]

I don't have that kind of cash on me, so no, I'm not interested in him for that number.

[Second Base]

28 minutes ago, Lou said:

Calhoun? 

Yeah. Not having the best year, but as a career, he's been solid at the plate.

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

1 hour ago, Scotty@AW said:

Baseball is a simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball etc...

The Angels have had problems throwing the ball. Whenever their pitchers do it, they get hurt. 

The Angels are pretty good at catching the ball, which we shouldn't take for granted, because given how this team operates, it wouldn't surprise me to see a bunch of broken hands every time they try to turn a double play.

And finally, with the exception of three players (Trout, Simmons and Calhoun) they just aren't that good at hitting the Ball.

We have bigger fish to fry than paying for Darvish. Besides, he'd probably get hurt just by pitching in the same vicinity as Richards and Skaggs.

He already had his Tommy John.

We have enough pitching as long as 80% of our starters can stay healthy for an entire season. Fix LF and 2B. Put Cowart at 3B and Cron at 1B (no platoon).

[KevinJ14]

1 hour ago, Scotty@AW said:

Yeah. Not having the best year, but as a career, he's been solid at the plate.

I'd argue Escobar too.

[Lou]

2 hours ago, Scotty@AW said:

Yeah. Not having the best year, but as a career, he's been solid at the plate.

Then you have to include Pujols,too 

[DMVol]

1 hour ago, KevinJ14 said:

I'd argue Escobar too.

Better hitter than Calhoun....

[Vegas Halo Fan]

5 hours ago, wopphil said:

Should be a top priority this off-season. Realistically, he is going to cost at least 6/160, maybe more. Anyone interested in him at that number?

His injury history and his age concern me. Do you really want him under contract for $20M plus in his age 36 season? I don't.

[Second Base]

1 hour ago, KevinJ14 said:

I'd argue Escobar too.

Indeed. So I'll include Trout, Escobar, Simmons and Calhoun.

[Ohtaniland]

In before Darvish's wife likes the west coast. 

[tdawg87]

I'd kill for Darvish, but like Victor's mom, this team has way too many holes to fill. 

But if Arte wants to do it I wouldn't complain. 

[tomsred]

I don't want to do it.  It has all the trappings of the last schmuck we got from Texas - Hamilton.  Yeah, better citizen, but 6 years to stay productively healthy is a long time, and the apple could rotten fast.  Let's dig for gold somewhere else.

[UndertheHalo]

I couldn't give less of a shit about the money.  I'd love for him to be an Angel.