Chris Cotillo: Angels and Padres after Daniel Nava

[halomatt]

Perhaps this IS it.  It still improves LF and very inexpensively.  Maybe the plan is to go big in 2018.  Harper next to Trout in the outfield?  I'd like that look.

[NrM]

Well in a nutshell I never believed that any of the big OF'rs were ever seriously targeted. I said that Eppler would have to get creative with trades ( shop Wilson ) and sign mid-level pieces. I said it all along that Arte won't go over the Luxury tax.

 

I was saying the same thing until they traded for Simmons. 

 

You don't gut the farmsystem for a defensive specialist without plans of building a competitive roster.

This is a 3rd of 4th place team right now.

Edited December 17, 2015 by Poozy

[bloodbrother]

With Pennington, Soto, Gentry, Nava we'll have a stronger bench this season.

 

 

Yep.

[VariousCrap]

I refuse to believe that the Angels will only do a platoon in LF with these guys.  This has to be a bench move.

[tdawg87]

Perhaps this IS it.  It still improves LF and very inexpensively.  Maybe the plan is to go big in 2018.  Harper next to Trout in the outfield?  I'd like that look.

 

Between Weaver and Wilson's contracts coming off the books next year, and Hamilton's the year after, the Angels can spend for 2016 and still end up well below the tax threshold for 2018 when the FA class is shaping up to be ridiculous.

[NrM]

Between Weaver and Wilson's contracts coming off the books next year, and Hamilton's the year after, the Angels can spend for 2016 and still end up well below the tax threshold for 2018 when the FA class is shaping up to be ridiculous.

 

Nah. Calhoun and Richards will be making 15+ million a year..

Edited December 17, 2015 by Poozy

[bloodbrother]

Mike DiGiovanna ‏@MikeDiGiovanna

#Angels owner Arte Moreno said "we're probably gonna be out" on Cespedes, Gordon and Upton.

 

 

Jeff Fletcher ‏@JeffFletcherOCR

Arte Moreno, on big FAs "Right now if I had to make a decision we'd probably be out."

 

Bill Shaikin ‏@BillShaikin

Moreno: Angels made no offer to Jason Heyward.

 

 

Um....wow

Edited December 17, 2015 by bloodbrother

[tdawg87]

Please sell the team.

[jimbo]

LIES!

[Richard]

Mike DiGiovanna ‏@MikeDiGiovanna

#Angels owner Arte Moreno said "we're probably gonna be out" on Cespedes, Gordon and Upton.

 

 

Jeff Fletcher ‏@JeffFletcherOCR

Arte Moreno, on big FAs "Right now if I had to make a decision we'd probably be out."

 

Bill Shaikin ‏@BillShaikin

Moreno: Angels made no offer to Jason Heyward.

 

 

Um....wow

 

 

Incoming server crash.

[Fregosi2Knoop]

Yep.

With this bench,things should work out very well so long as none of them take the field or have an at-bat.

[Erstad Grit]

Somebody quickly get Hamilton blow so he can get suspended, we need that cash now!

[Frieri Meatball]

This team is going nowhere for the next couple of years.

[Docwaukee]

Nava or Choi could get some DH at bats vs. RHers if Cron struggles.  

 

i just want to remind everyone that of the players that weren't starting or on the team at the end of the year, the offensive production from said players was a collective of about 80 runs below the average major league baseball player.  That's -80 runs accumulated over about 1550 (25% of the teams total PA)  plate appearances from our bench by seasons end.

 

Granted, guys off the bench aren't likely to perform as an average major league player, but our collective group might now.  Also, if everyone in the opening day lineup stays healthy and performs enough to keep them in there then the bench will get fewer at bats.  

 

 We essentially had two -1 WAR players playing in our lineup every single day. Imagine getting half of that back.  That would be 4 wins.  That's how bad our bench was last year.  

[Stradling]

If true that sucks. I can't believe they would take this approach, it literally makes zero sense.

[Docwaukee]

Nevermind.  I guess these guys are gonna start. 

[tdawg87]

From now on whenever Arte says anything about going over the luxury tax I'm not buying a word he says. He said it wasn't "a line in the sand" but it clearly is. "The right player" doesn't exist.

[halomatt]

If true that sucks. I can't believe they would take this approach, it literally makes zero sense.

I disagree.  It makes perfect sense from Moreno's perspective.  Just cause we don't like it doesn't mean it's not logical. 

 

And yes.  It does suck. 

[bloodbrother]

Makes absolutely zero sense. Can't save money to spend next offseason with that garbage market. Won't be finding a suitable long-term option for LF next year barring a trade with a team that has little to trade.

 

Looking to waste another year of Trout's prime while they have him. Nice strategy

[Jim]

Nava or Choi could get some DH at bats vs. RHers if Cron struggles.

i just want to remind everyone that of the players that weren't starting or on the team at the end of the year, the offensive production from said players was a collective of about 80 runs below the average major league baseball player. That's -80 runs accumulated over about 1550 (25% of the teams total PA) plate appearances from our bench by seasons end.

Granted, guys off the bench aren't likely to perform as an average major league player, but our collective group might now. Also, if everyone in the opening day lineup stays healthy and performs enough to keep them in there then the bench will get fewer at bats.

We essentially had two -1 WAR players playing in our lineup every single day. Imagine getting half of that back. That would be 4 wins. That's how bad our bench was last year.

That there is some awesome spin.

[jimbo]

I'm calling bullsh*t on this

[tdawg87]

Makes absolutely zero sense. Can't save money to spend next offseason with that garbage market. Won't be finding a suitable long-term option for LF next year barring a trade with a team that has little to trade.

 

Looking to waste another year of Trout's prime while they have him. Nice strategy

 

2 years, since next year there's really nothing to improve the team with either.

 

Might as well trade him, honestly.

[nando714]

I have absolutely nothing to say but laugh

Trade trout while you can

[Docwaukee]

If true that sucks. I can't believe they would take this approach, it literally makes zero sense.

Honestly, if this is the approach they are gonna take, then they may as well gut the team and try to get as many high minors prospects as possible so that in 3 years they will be competitive again.  That would give us an outside chance to keep Trout for the long term.  

 

This franchises use of resources and opportunities over the last 6-7 years has been an unmitigated colossal goat **** of a disaster.  

[DMVol]

If true that sucks. I can't believe they would take this approach, it literally makes zero sense.

Same approach for the 3rd straight offseason, nothing new....signing Pujols and Hamilton effectively stopped big spending on FA's....