Santiago or Shoe

[nando714]

When Skaggs returns

My pick is Shoemaker

More consistent. Better upside imo. I prise Santiago for his last couple starts and on improving after being sent down. I personally have more faith in shoe than Santiago at this point.

[AngelsAndRamsFan]

That's an easy choice. Shoemaker.

[tdawg87]

I would disagree about Shoemaker having the better upside. Santiago's stuff is pretty damn good. If he ever learns to control it he could easily end up being a CJ Wilson type pitcher.

 

Shoemaker is the hot hand right now, but over the long run I think Santiago will be the better pitcher.

[nando714]

I would disagree about Shoemaker having the better upside. Santiago's stuff is pretty damn good. If he ever learns to control it he could easily end up being a CJ Wilson type pitcher.

Shoemaker is the hot hand right now, but over the long run I think Santiago will be the better pitcher.

Until Santiago learns how to control his emotions better and not let his emotion dictate his pitching I gotta go with Shoe.

I think this is a good discussion to have about back end pitching. We actually have a little more depth than we thought.

[seenoevil]

Shoe

[Blarg]

The Angels are going to need both before the season is over. The only question is Santiago of more value out of the pen and keep Shoe ready for the rotation starts? I tend to lean this way, Angels could use a guy out of the pen that can do long relief and be a lock down kind of arm.

[NachoPop]

Theyll need all to preform so they can not overwork Skaggs

[Angelsjunky]

This seems to be a classic scenario where one player (Shoemaker) has a higher floor but lower ceiling than another player (Santiago). I like keeping Shoemaker in the rotation and putting Santiago in the bullpen, even see how he does in high leverage situations, perhaps grooming him to be the closer.

[nikkachez]

I think you give Santiago the rotation spot if he impresses his next start. I blame the Atlanta game on the pen. At the same time Shoemaker looks like a guy who will attack the zone, throw strikes, get quick outs, and save the pen a lil bit. 

[nando714]

Theyll need all to preform so they can not overwork Skaggs

6 man rotation

Lol

[Docwaukee]

Weaver and Wilson go every 5th day and the other four slot in otherwise

 

Weaver

Richards

Wilson

Shoemaker

Skaggs

 

Weaver

Santiago

Wilson

Richards

Shoemaker

 

Weaver

Skaggs

Wilson

Santiago

Richards

 

Weaver

Shoemaker

Wilson

Skaggs

Santiago

 

For every 4 starts that Weaver and Wilson make, Shoe/Santi/Skaggs/Richards get 3.  You don't skip anyone in the rotation so after the off day you go to whoever was supposed to be next regardless.  So you give Weaver and Wilson a break once in awhile.  Occasionally though, there will be a week between starts, but you can also move a guy up depending on whether someone else seems fatigued, or give the guy a little work out of the pen in between starts if the situation calls for it.

 

But, is the player better off starting every 5 days?  Do they perform better or would the occasional rest be of benefit?   

[tdawg87]

Those are the questions that only one man can answer.

 

 

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Edited June 19, 2014 by tdawg87

[mopuddin]

no brainer - blanton. i mean shoemaker.

[ten ocho recon scout]

Doc had to screw it all up by using thought instead of most recent good start. Pfft.

I go with shoemaker, and santiago as the scott shields type out of the bullpen. Its just tough because what pen guy can we get rid of

[arch stanton]

We're out of lefty options in the pen. I'd use Santiago there until a better option comes along.

[Agalloch]

Shoe, definitely. Santiago will earn his spot back but Shoe has done nothing but impress.

[Splint7438]

Shoe simply because he can be effective for more than five innings per start. But Santiago's day is coming.

[xboom28x]

Shoemaker for the simple fact that he has proven he can go much deeper into games making it so we don't have to use our crappy bullpen as much.

[The God of Runs]

I think both could hit better than Ibanez

[AngelsFaninGA]

Santiago against the A's, Shoe against everyone else. 

[Adam]

Shoemaker sucks and is getting it done with smoke and mirrors, but the Angels should ride that out for as long as they can.