If Ohtani Goes Elsewhere

[Stradling]

What’s the pivot?  

With the hiring of Washington, the team isn’t going to rebuild.  So what is the pivot? 

Is it Belinger and trade for Bieber?  

Is it all in on Yamamoto?  

Do they take on a bad contract to get an arm?  

[T.G.]

Bellinger is a Boras client. The Angels haven't had much luck with Boras clients, right?

[Fullmer17]

12 minutes ago, Stradling said:

What’s the pivot?  

With the hiring of Washington, the team isn’t going to rebuild.  So what is the pivot? 

Is it Belinger and trade for Bieber?  

Is it all in on Yamamoto?  

Do they take on a bad contract to get an arm?  

I’d assume a trade for Shane Bieber, Sign Snell and sign a hitter like Soler or Joc

[Stradling]

5 minutes ago, T.G. said:

Bellinger is a Boras client. The Angels haven't had much luck with Boras clients, right?

Rendon was the most recent one I can think of. 

[HaloBronco]

15 minutes ago, Stradling said:

What’s the pivot?  

With the hiring of Washington, the team isn’t going to rebuild.  So what is the pivot? 

Is it Belinger and trade for Bieber?  

Is it all in on Yamamoto?  

Do they take on a bad contract to get an arm?  

I would hope it's all in on Yamamoto!

Also I hope they stay away from Bellinger.

Beiber depends on the price. 

 

[Pancake Bear]

There's no bat anywhere close to Ohtani on the market. Closest you could get to replacing Ohtani would be something like signing Yamamoto or Snell and maybe Candelario. 

[cals]

Even if they sign Ohtani they still have a lot of work to do.

[HBAngel13]

Invest in Yamamoto

Take a hard look at Trevor Bauer.  Thinking a 1 yr deal + club option

Sign Flaherty

Trade Sandoval for one of the Orioles MLB ready position players (Cowser, Kjerstad or Mayo) plus maybe a couple lower level arms

Sign JD Martinez, Rhys Hoskins or Soler as DH. 

Probably need another infielder for depth (obviously they would need to play 3B). Give Renigfo an everyday job from day one and see if he breaks out.

[ScottT]

I've liked Burnes for a while, but Bieber seems like he'd be much cheaper.  He's younger than I thought.

[Stradling]

Burnes will be an Angel in 2025

[T.G.]

3 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Burned will be an Angel in 2025

That may be very true.

[Stradling]

Just now, T.G. said:

That may be very true.

Jerk

[BTH]

If Arte chooses the pivot, I think it's overpaying Bellinger or Snell.

If Perry chooses the pivot, I think it's a trade for a SP + a DH signing.

[T.G.]

1 minute ago, Stradling said:

Jerk

Also true

[Angel Oracle]

57 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Rendon was the most recent one I can think of. 

And Weaver 

[Dgar24]

 Shota Imanaga. Five years, $85MM

Jordan Hicks. Four years, $40MM

Mike Clevinger. Two years, $26MM

Justin Turner. One year, $16MM or spend more on Chapman. Rendon not gonna stay healthy let him dh back up corners.

wish list Jung Hoo Lee. Five years, $50MM. Love on base guys 25year old

[angelsnationtalk]

1 hour ago, BTH said:

If Arte chooses the pivot, I think it's overpaying Bellinger or Snell.

If Perry chooses the pivot, I think it's a trade for a SP + a DH signing.

I agree to both, but both of these scenarios scare me. They can't compete. 

Best chances to compete are to sign Ohtani, trade for a strong arm and maybe take a run at Yamamoto. It's not my money and i'm tired of losing. 

[DMVol]

Bellinger is exactly the type of FA we don't need to sign....overpaying a guy coming off of a monster year...but he fits the Arte profile....we need pitching much more than a OF'er....

[Tyler]

If he goes elsewhere then you do whatever you need to move on from Rendon. Send Ward, Thaiss, and Sandoval with him if you can. 

[Ron Mexico]

40 minutes ago, Tyler said:

If he goes elsewhere then you do whatever you need to move on from Rendon. Send Ward, Thaiss, and Sandoval with him if you can. 

Ever heard of a No trade clause

[Angel Oracle]

10 hours ago, Stradling said:

Burnes will be an Angel in 2025

Either him or Bieber 

[Chitown27Fan]

If Sho goes else where I wish him well he has earned it and it was his right. I like Sho but I think him going else where at the rumored price point in the best thing that could happen to the Angels Lets think Alburt Puljos deal only twice as bad money wise. I would like to see the following 

Jorge Solar 2-18

Jordan Hicks 2-20 tell him he can compete for closer roll that could increase his value 

Jack Flaherty 3-39

Frankie Montas 1-7 with option for second year at 10 mil 

Sign Brandon Woodruff while he is recoving from injury for cheep and wait him out and see if he is still above average 

Trade Sandoval and Renjifo to Tampa for Glasnow and any clean peanut they may throw in if any 

I know wishful thinking but gotta try something 

[Chuck]

11 hours ago, Dgar24 said:

 Shota Imanaga. Five years, $85MM

Jordan Hicks. Four years, $40MM

Mike Clevinger. Two years, $26MM

Justin Turner. One year, $16MM or spend more on Chapman. Rendon not gonna stay healthy let him dh back up corners.

wish list Jung Hoo Lee. Five years, $50MM. Love on base guys 25year old

Would love Jung Hoo Lee to lead off and play LF but I hear the Padres are the front runner for him. They have Kim on the club and they have a serious void in their OF with the latest Soto/Grisham trade to the Yankees. 

I like your first two selections in Imanaga and Hicks and I think Turner would be the better DH because he can play 3B/1B as well. 

I've liked Soler because of his power to replace Ohtani, but his outfield defense isn't good. 

[Dgar24]

Honestly I think Jung Hoo Lee is a high reward ,motivated player, comes from baseball blood.

Gives us Ward to trade. If cost is a concern we get some back. I am not anti Ward just see an opportunity to get younger and better.

[HBAngel13]

I like Montas a lot. He is another guy we should be looking at if he isn’t damaged goods.