Shohei Ohtani tears UCL, won't pitch again this season

[Angel Oracle]

14 minutes ago, Slegnaac said:

Will he have the arm for RF?

Might be better in LF.

Once elbow is repaired and he’s far enough along in rehab, RF should be fine once he advances to RF length throws during rehab.    On average, there are what, 5 throws per game from RF?

[Slegnaac]

7 minutes ago, Angel Oracle said:

Once elbow is repaired and he’s far enough along in rehab, RF should be fine once he advances to RF length throws during rehab.    On average, there are what, 5 throws per game from RF?

Just thinking runners might be more inclined to challenge his arm playing RF than LF.

[Swordsman78]

1 hour ago, jsnpritchett said:

Theoretically can he? Of course. Is it at all likely? Absolutely not. Also, they're not even sure yet if he's going to travel to NY for the series that starts tomorrow. 

Once again I was right.   You should not be so quick to dismiss my takes.

 

[Duren, Duren]

First base is the easiest position to play. With his size and speed he could cover a lot of ground. And stretch further than many others. Not a lot of throwing involved other than to second or home occasionally. And it's a position of need for the Angels. 

[jsnpritchett]

5 minutes ago, Swordsman78 said:

Once again I was right.   You should not be so quick to dismiss my takes.

 

Lol, what is your problem?  As of this morning, they weren't sure he'd travel.  Clearly, there has been an update.

[oldguy]

2 hours ago, James said:

I would think he would need much more information to make such a decision/comment on his future. 

IMO, a non-pitching Ohtani is worth as much as Aaron Judge.  Probably more with the Japanese $ he brings in.  The value of having him on your pitching staff (during the regular season) is offset by the fact that you now have to include your 6th-best guy in the rotation.  He only averages 5.7 innings pitched per start, and the team is minus one bullpen guy because of the extra starter.  

He'll get at least $40 mil per year. Probably more if he signs for less than Judge's 9 years.

 

[Swordsman78]

2 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:

Lol, what is your problem?  As of this morning, they weren't sure he'd travel.  Clearly, there has been an update.

The problem is your credibility lately.  

[Jay]

Puzzling why Ohtani wants to continue to play instead of seeking treatment for the injury.

Is he going to be on some weird Pujols-like quest to hit a HR total?

The only thing weirder would be if he insisted on pitching.

 

[oldguy]

2 hours ago, eaterfan said:

Talked to a guy who is an orthopedic surgeon today. He thinks it's likely that Ohtani is done as a pitcher, but he says it's not impossible he comes back to pitch. I imagine he probably moves to the outfield after he recovers from TJ if necessary. I think he'd be pretty good out there if he starts playing out there regularly and that brings more value than just DHing. 

A friend of mine was playing Xbox with the ortho who worked on Verlander and he disagrees with your ortho.

[Swordsman78]

9 minutes ago, Jay said:

Puzzling why Ohtani wants to continue to play instead of seeking treatment for the injury.

Is he going to be on some weird Pujols-like quest to hit a HR total?

The only thing weirder would be if he insisted on pitching.

 

Not puzzling at all.  Ohtani likes / is passionate about playing baseball.  It is his life.  He's a baller.  Plain and simple.

 

[Blarg]

28 minutes ago, Duren, Duren said:

First base is the easiest position to play. With his size and speed he could cover a lot of ground. And stretch further than many others. Not a lot of throwing involved other than to second or home occasionally. And it's a position of need for the Angels. 

Schanuel with his .580 obp disagrees. He is the Angels first baseman next season and all the way to free agency. 

[jsnpritchett]

25 minutes ago, Swordsman78 said:

The problem is your credibility lately.  

Again: what are you talking about?  And who the hell are you to be determining anyone's "credibility"?  Get over yourself.

[Swordsman78]

13 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:

Again: what are you talking about?  And who the hell are you to be determining anyone's "credibility"?  Get 

 

 

Edited August 24, 2023 by Swordsman78

[jsnpritchett]

1 minute ago, Swordsman78 said:

 

 

Good post.

[Swordsman78]

Just now, jsnpritchett said:

Good post.

Invisible ink.  You have to pee on it in order to activate the solution.

(which shouldn't be difficult sinc you have been doing such figuratively on every one of my posts over the past week.)

[ArkyAngelsFan]

4 hours ago, Revad said:

Sure, I’ll trade it for my bridge in San Francisco 

I dunno... Depends on how much poop is on your bridge in Frisco.

~ArkyAngelsFan~

[Revad]

2 minutes ago, ArkyAngelsFan said:

I dunno... Depends on how much poop is on your bridge in Frisco.

~ArkyAngelsFan~

Pidgin poop or doggie poop?

[ArkyAngelsFan]

9 minutes ago, Revad said:

Pidgin poop or doggie poop?

Nice try, Revad but I'll bet you know what I am referring to. Btw did you know that Frisco's paying people upwards of $100K per year to clean up the poop on the streets? 

Lotsa job security from what I hear.....

~ArkyAngelsFan~

 

[ScottT]

1 hour ago, Jay said:

Puzzling why Ohtani wants to continue to play instead of seeking treatment for the injury.

Is he going to be on some weird Pujols-like quest to hit a HR total?

The only thing weirder would be if he insisted on pitching.

 

He lives baseball.

It wouldn't be surprising though if he ultimately gets surgery before the season over.

[Vegas Halo Fan]

14 hours ago, The Ghost of Bob Starr said:

This is great news for his future.  Angels can shell out the cash for a hurt guy to retain him. 
 

this could scare suitors away. 

I'm sure that it does. Teams that might have been tempted to send an armored car to his house now have to be rethinking it. This is his second significant arm injury, and he is about to hit 30. It's pretty certain that he won't pitch in 2024. A big part of the appeal is the two way factor, which would be missing at the front end, presumably his most productive remaining year.

[Angelsjunky]

45 minutes ago, Blarg said:

Schanuel with his .580 obp disagrees. He is the Angels first baseman next season and all the way to free agency. 

Obligatory "small sample size" aside (Schanuel could be a legit .400 OBP guy), I wonder how the pup would do in LF or RF. I personally like the idea of Shohei playing in the field - I have a feeling that he'd do better that way. If he can't come back and pitch or play LF/RF, maybe him at 1B and Schanuel in the OF.

[Angelsjunky]

1 minute ago, ScottT said:

He lives baseball.

Who, Anthony Rendon?

[ScottT]

Tee hee hee.

The guy mentioned in the thread title and the post that was quoted, numbnuts. 

[jsnpritchett]

 

[Angel Oracle]

1 hour ago, Swordsman78 said:

Not puzzling at all.  Ohtani likes / is passionate about playing baseball.  It is his life.  He's a baller.  Plain and simple.

 

Wish Rendon had anything resembling that passion.