Is this Adell’s defining moment?

[Angelsjunky]

11 minutes ago, The Ghost of Bob Starr said:

What is a partial platoon AO?   Is that like partial virginity. 

Just the tip?

[Angelsjunky]

3 minutes ago, Jason said:

That's only getting a BJ your first time. 

There's nothing wrong with that.

[Blarg]

Adell came up big with a triple, rbi and run scored in one pinch hit at bat. Too bad Ward had to end the game on an easy groud out because Adell was on deck. 

[UndertheHalo]

With the Angels? Yes probably this is it. 

[Vlad27Trout27]

This is Adell's time! honestly start him in rf, move Renfroe to 1st, Mike M to the bench and Micky at Center. I also Think that Wards is coming around and expect him to het around 260 with a 340ish OBP throughout the rest of the season. We need production from the bottom of the line-up, we'll need thaiss's bat to come around, line drive approach and who ever is taking over for SS and 3rd.  

[VladdyforHOF]

34 minutes ago, Vlad27Trout27 said:

This is Adell's time! honestly start him in rf, move Renfroe to 1st, Mike M to the bench and Micky at Center. I also Think that Wards is coming around and expect him to het around 260 with a 340ish OBP throughout the rest of the season. We need production from the bottom of the line-up, we'll need thaiss's bat to come around, line drive approach and who ever is taking over for SS and 3rd.  

Lol. With a .340ish slugging percentage too? So still not even a .700 OPS player. And that's about his upside.

Ward fucking sucks. If they don't trade him or bench him and play Adell in LF for the rest of the season then they're fucking nuts.

[stormngt]

5 hours ago, Mark68 said:

Adell needs to play on a nearly everyday basis. Will he? probably not, unless he gets scorching hot. 

 

Might as well see what the kids can do, especially once Neto & O'Hoppe are back. 

 

It kinda worked for the Phillies last year.

Great advice when we are out of the race.  Not now

[VladdyforHOF]

4 minutes ago, stormngt said:

Great advice when we are out of the race.  Not now

What is being out of the race to you? Like mathematically eliminated? Like need to at least 10 GB in the WC by the end of July?

[VladdyforHOF]

I've never seen someone ride on the success of literally two months like Taylor Ward has. Bench this clown non-athlete already.

[Mark68]

50 minutes ago, stormngt said:

Great advice when we are out of the race.  Not now

No. Now. If they want to stay in the race, they're gonna have to do this. 

[Stradling]

55 minutes ago, VladdyforHOF said:

I've never seen someone ride on the success of literally two months like Taylor Ward has. Bench this clown non-athlete already.

Why exaggerate?

[Blarg]

1 hour ago, stormngt said:

Great advice when we are out of the race.  Not now

@stormngt, there are only three players on the roster that were starters when the season began, Ohtani, Ward and Renfroe. The rest are now b level replacement players. No team stays in the race playing every game with only three of 9 starters and the rest AAAA talent.

The Angels are no longer a competitive team. Ward is well below league average as a hitter and Renfroe just at league average. Playing Adell over Renfroe or Ward will not hamper their chances of winning and may just be an improvement. 

[EDinTUSTIN]

2 hours ago, Vlad27Trout27 said:

This is Adell's time! honestly start him in rf, move Renfroe to 1st, Mike M to the bench and Micky at Center. I also Think that Wards is coming around and expect him to het around 260 with a 340ish OBP throughout the rest of the season. We need production from the bottom of the line-up, we'll need thaiss's bat to come around, line drive approach and who ever is taking over for SS and 3rd.  

Actually, I think it would be better to put Moniak in CF with Adell in left, and Renfroe in right. I don't know if Adell quite has the throwing arm for right field, and we know that Renfroe does. Also, Renfroe is not a good defensive first baseman. Ward can ride the pine and be the fourth or fifth outfielder, or be a starter in SLC. Adell has earned his shot. The few at-bats with the big club this year have been rather substantial--a homerun on his very first at-bat a couple of weeks ago--and promptly rewarded with a free ticket back to SLC--and today a triple. He either has it at the major league level or he doesn't. He has nothing more to prove in AAA. Also, he has shown defensive improvement and worked his tail off. He has all-around better talent than Ward, and subsequently, should be supplanting Ward in the regular lineup.

I like Ward; I have nothing against him. Very few players have legitimate major-league talent. He is good enough to be a fill in and substitute, which is better than 99% of the world's baseball players. There is no shame in that, either. He gets to play ball for a living -- in his case, a very lucrative living. Because he is on a major league, 40-man roster, he is assured of making a very good living playing AAA ball with the occasional call-up. I would've given my eye teeth to have been so blessed when I was his age. He gets to play baseball for a living; he reaps a fantastic salary and benefits; his friends, family, and others in his sphere know this, and he has their admiration. He has nothing to hang his head about. It is that he is just not talented enough to be a major league starter. That is just the way it is. 

[Blarg]

Let's be clear about what the Angels fielded today in OPS+

Ohtani (left with a blister) 183

Moniak 165

Moustakas 103 

Renfroe 100

Ward 91

Rendon 91 (now on IL)

Escobar (Rendon's replacement) 94

Wallach 91

Velazquez 83

Fletcher (pinch hit for Velazquez) 44

Rengifo 74

 

That is not a competitive team. 

[Hubs]

23 hours ago, Stradling said:

He will be platooned. 

4 outfielders for 3 spots and platoon duty at 1st. This is not the same as platooning him with Moniak for one spot. Or even a three way platoon for two spots.. honestly.

Against lefties, I expect it to be a Ward/Adell/Renfroe OF with Drury playing 1st and Rengifo or Escobar playing 2nd. But It could also be Ward/Moniak/Adell with Renfroe playing 1st and Drury playing 2nd.

Against Righties, it will be Ward/Moniak/Adell or Adell/Moniak/Renfroe depending on matchups.

[Hubs]

Just now, Hubs said:

4 outfielders for 3 spots and platoon duty at 1st. This is not the same as platooning him with Moniak for one spot. Or even a three way platoon for two spots.. honestly.

Against lefties, I expect it to be a Ward/Adell/Renfroe OF with Drury playing 1st and Rengifo or Escobar playing 2nd. But It could also be Ward/Moniak/Adell with Renfroe playing 1st and Drury playing 2nd.

Against Righties, it will be Ward/Moniak/Adell or Adell/Moniak/Renfroe depending on matchups.

Or I guess Ward/Moniak/Renfroe against Righties is Possible too. Still...

[stormngt]

On 7/4/2023 at 8:27 PM, VladdyforHOF said:

What is being out of the race to you? Like mathematically eliminated? Like need to at least 10 GB in the WC by the end of July?

We are not out of the race when our elimination number is 69!!!  65 for the for the Division title. 

So but those who constantly have a defeatist attitude are losers.  You get joy by bitching about being a loser.

The way things are going we very well could be out of the race by the trade deadline.  But do not try to convince me that 4 games back with 73 games to play!

Its one thing when speculating if we should be sellers.  Its another to start benching oeople and giving "the kids a chance".

I am sorry but that is pathetic.

 

 

Edited July 6, 2023 by stormngt

[stormngt]

On 7/4/2023 at 9:33 PM, Blarg said:

@stormngt, there are only three players on the roster that were starters when the season began, Ohtani, Ward and Renfroe. The rest are now b level replacement players. No team stays in the race playing every game with only three of 9 starters and the rest AAAA talent.

The Angels are no longer a competitive team. Ward is well below league average as a hitter and Renfroe just at league average. Playing Adell over Renfroe or Ward will not hamper their chances of winning and may just be an improvement. 

Yea all way below average players have a 1 War at All Star Break 

 

[stormngt]

On 7/4/2023 at 9:33 PM, Blarg said:

@stormngt, there are only three players on the roster that were starters when the season began, Ohtani, Ward and Renfroe. The rest are now b level replacement players. No team stays in the race playing every game with only three of 9 starters and the rest AAAA talent.

The Angels are no longer a competitive team. Ward is well below league average as a hitter and Renfroe just at league average. Playing Adell over Renfroe or Ward will not hamper their chances of winning and may just be an improvement. 

We are not out of the race when our elimination number is standing at 69!!!

I understand the pessimism.  But you are a loser if you are giving up with your elimination number is 69.

[Tank]

ward has really struggled this year, and there doesn't seem to be enough reasons to keep him in the lineup. everyone else seems to have hit the wall, too, and it seems pretty unreasonable to expect them to gain ground in the playoff race in the coming weeks because of it. throw in that trout is out for at least a month, and rendon remains a big question mark, and there's no reason to let ward keep playing.

put in adell and let him have at it.

[Stradling]

7 hours ago, stormngt said:

We are not out of the race when our elimination number is 69!!!  65 for the for the Division title. 

So but those who constantly have a defeatist attitude are losers.  You get joy by bitching about being a loser.

The way things are going we very well could be out of the race by the trade deadline.  But do not try to convince me that 4 games back with 73 games to play!

Its one thing when speculating if we should be sellers.  Its another to start benching oeople and giving "the kids a chance".

I am sorry but that is pathetic.

 

 

It’s almost like fans project their personality on the opinion of the team. Almost. 

[stormngt]

3 hours ago, Stradling said:

It’s almost like fans project their personality on the opinion of the team. Almost. 

Is this in reference to me or people i am commenting about?

Yes, i guess i do project my personality in my comments.   I don't  quit.  If there is even a slight chance i don't quit.  And i hate quitters.

 

[Blarg]

Adell has a 312 OPS+ while batting .375/.444/1.125/1.569 this year.