Protests and Riots Thread

[Tank]

2 hours ago, gotbeer said:

Unrest Erupts After A Man Was Fatally Shot During An Arrest Attempt In Minneapolis

 

so basically people in minneapolis no longer want law enforcement to do their job. just let the felons go and do their thing, and public safety be damned.

[tdawg87]

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Little is known about Thursday's shooting. The U.S. Marshals Service said a task force was trying to arrest the man on a state warrant for being a felon in possession of a firearm.

Yeah not something to throw a tantrum over. You want to give your movement legitimacy? This ain't it.

[gotbeer]

41 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

Yeah not something to throw a tantrum over. You want to give your movement legitimacy? This ain't it.

They lost that legitimacy a long time ago, when they kept rioting over the crooks, and ignored people like the little kid that got shot because he was playing cops and robbers in the park.  

[tdawg87]

2 minutes ago, gotbeer said:

They lost that legitimacy a long time ago, when they kept rioting over the crooks, and ignored people like the little kid that got shot because he was playing cops and robbers in the park.  

I don't remember that story.

Sounds about right for the media.

[gotbeer]

1 minute ago, tdawg87 said:

I don't remember that story.

Sounds about right for the media.

Tamir Rice: police release video of 12-year-old's fatal shooting – video

They latched on Michael Brown, instead of this kid.  

[tdawg87]

Just now, gotbeer said:

Tamir Rice: police release video of 12-year-old's fatal shooting – video

They latched on Michael Brown, instead of this kid.  

Oh ok. The name is familiar.

Unfortunately his name is just used as a throw-in, like Rengifo in AW trade scenarios.

[Redondo]

 

LONG RAP SHEET

 

Minneapolis man in police-involved death was armed, had 20 convictions

 

[tdawg87]

Ok you guys really gotta stop with the "prior conviction" crap. 

It says he may have opened fire. That's the story. If he shot at cops, then his killing is entirely justified. His criminal history is just so the cops know who they are dealing with. The only relevant crime is the one they were attempting to arrest him for.

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The Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension said the slain suspect had been wanted on a felony firearms violation.

There you go. He was wanted for a felony firearms violation. He should have been arrested. And again, the police say he opened fire in which case he should have been shot. 

Although, to play devil's advocate here:

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Law enforcement officers, who were not wearing body cams

Convenient. Could pretty easily shut this bullshit down if they recorded the dude shooting at them.

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What happened next, according to authorities, is not entirely clear. Two deputies, one from Hennepin County and one from Ramsey County, opened fire. 

But the BCA said it found evidence that the suspect had opened fire from within the vehicle, where investigators said they recovered both a handgun and spent casings.

That first sentence is interesting. "Not entirely clear". 

They said they found a handgun and castings from the handgun so it would appear that he did, in fact, shoot at officers. Assuming they're telling the truth. There's no footage or anything of this "evidence", at least not yet.

Not saying there should be rioting over this case; in fact I think this shit has gotten old and has accomplished nothing. But clearly what happened is "not entirely clear".

Bringing up his prior convictions is just how the right and cals justifies a (black) person being killed. It's the perfect fallback. "Well, even if he didn't shoot at police, he was a felon! He would have committed another crime!"

Just please stop. 

[Kevin]

Tamir Rice got plenty of attention in the media. 

[tdawg87]

5 minutes ago, Kevin said:

Tamir Rice got plenty of attention in the media. 

I guess I missed it. Was it posted here? 

[Kevin]

2 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

I guess I missed it. Was it posted here? 

I don't remember what was posted on this board to be honest. Happened in 2014.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Tamir_Rice

[tdawg87]

2 minutes ago, Kevin said:

I don't remember what was posted on this board to be honest. Happened in 2014.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Tamir_Rice

Ohh. Didn't realize it happened that long ago. 

Yeah I don't remember it. I know the name, though.

[gotbeer]

27 minutes ago, Kevin said:

Tamir Rice got plenty of attention in the media. 

The mainstream media has a Tamir Rice problem

[tdawg87]

Trayvon Martin was the first time this stuff was brought to my attention. I remember the thread being epic.

I can't recall what my stance was at the time. I hadn't ever really thought about these issues before then. 

I remember Michael Brown, who has been absolutely trashed by conservatives as being a "piece of shit". It seems like his killing was justified and certainly he shouldn't be the guy to be turned into a martyr.

Seems like Tamir Rice should be the one to give credence to your cause. That case is pretty awful.

[Kevin]

9 minutes ago, gotbeer said:

The mainstream media has a Tamir Rice problem

My statement still stands. He got plenty of attention in the media. I'm not denying others got plenty of attention that shouldn't have. 

[Jason]

13 hours ago, tdawg87 said:

Ok you guys really gotta stop with the "prior conviction" crap. 

It says he may have opened fire. That's the story. If he shot at cops, then his killing is entirely justified. His criminal history is just so the cops know who they are dealing with. The only relevant crime is the one they were attempting to arrest him for.

There you go. He was wanted for a felony firearms violation. He should have been arrested. And again, the police say he opened fire in which case he should have been shot. 

Although, to play devil's advocate here:

Convenient. Could pretty easily shut this bullshit down if they recorded the dude shooting at them.

That first sentence is interesting. "Not entirely clear". 

They said they found a handgun and castings from the handgun so it would appear that he did, in fact, shoot at officers. Assuming they're telling the truth. There's no footage or anything of this "evidence", at least not yet.

Not saying there should be rioting over this case; in fact I think this shit has gotten old and has accomplished nothing. But clearly what happened is "not entirely clear".

Bringing up his prior convictions is just how the right and cals justifies a (black) person being killed. It's the perfect fallback. "Well, even if he didn't shoot at police, he was a felon! He would have committed another crime!"

Just please stop. 

I will agree with most of this. Force can only be used to stop a threat that is being posed at that exact time. Prior convictions do come into play in how the arresting officer will approach that person. That may be looked at by some as a way of escalating the situation but officer safety is more important 

[tdawg87]

3 minutes ago, Jason said:

Prior convictions do come into play in how the arresting officer will approach that person.

Tbf I did basically say exactly that:

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His criminal history is just so the cops know who they are dealing with

 

[Redondo]

[tdawg87]

"Red states are healthier than blue states"

...what? 

[Crampknees]

14 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

"Red states are healthier than blue states"

...what? 

Redondo should be required to give a sentence long explanation of his Brancos. 

[Kotchman]

On 6/4/2021 at 6:56 PM, tdawg87 said:

Trayvon Martin was the first time this stuff was brought to my attention. I remember the thread being epic.

I can't recall what my stance was at the time. I hadn't ever really thought about these issues before then. 

I remember Michael Brown, who has been absolutely trashed by conservatives as being a "piece of shit". It seems like his killing was justified and certainly he shouldn't be the guy to be turned into a martyr.

Seems like Tamir Rice should be the one to give credence to your cause. That case is pretty awful.

Trayvon was shot by a Hispanic dude

[Kotchman]

1 hour ago, cals said:

I thought he was a jew.

I don't believe so. Was Travon shot by a fountain full of quarters?

[Rico]

Never met a Hispanic dude named Zimmerman. 

[Don]

1 minute ago, Rico said:

Never met a Hispanic dude named Zimmerman. 

I’m pretty sure he was Cuban. 

[Rico]

American-Cubans are no longer Hispanic.