SARS-CoV-2 and COVID-19

[ScottT]

6 minutes ago, tennischmp said:

Pretty sure they don’t want bar open because they are inside and it’s hard to social distance at the bar. Correct me if I’m wrong but if you are a bar and have outdoor seating and keep the tables 6 feet apart you can still be open 

Wrong.  

[ScottT]

This place was only allowing people outside for the last few weeks 

[Amazing Larry]

1 hour ago, fishbulb said:

 

 

This virus absolutely has the ability to overwhelm the hospital and healthcare system if people don't go about their lives responsibly. We opened stuff up here and a decent number of people acted like nothing about the world changed.

We went from around 100 people hospitalized and 50 people in ICUs in the county on June 10th to this, which would ultimately overwhelm us and our ability to care for patients if the rate of growth continues. Exponential growth is a real pain in the ass. There has been some promising data re: possibly slowing case growth, but we're still seeing a crap ton of hospital admissions. If the rate of active hospitalizations doubles every 7 or so days, we're straight up screwed in around three weeks.

 

Please show me a hospital that says it’s in danger of being overwhelmed. I patiently await your response. 

[tennischmp]

1 hour ago, ScottT said:

Wrong.  

Ok so then it makes zero sense but as you pointed out it is easy to get around it. 

[tennischmp]

48 minutes ago, Lhalo said:

Please show me a hospital that says it’s in danger of being overwhelmed. I patiently await your response. 

Arizona ICU beds are 88% full

[Amazing Larry]

1 minute ago, tennischmp said:

Arizona ICU beds are 88% full

Link?

[Amazing Larry]

Don’t forget that rioting is ok but you can’t enjoy the beach. Instead of thousands of people being outdoors they will now be at house parties in CA. Makes perfect sense.

 

[ScottT]

23 minutes ago, tennischmp said:

Ok so then it makes zero sense but as you pointed out it is easy to get around it. 

They aren't getting around anything. They are following the rules trying to survive 

[Claude]

1 hour ago, Lhalo said:

Please show me a hospital that says it’s in danger of being overwhelmed. I patiently await your response. 

So be honest. What level of firmness did you choose for your MyPillow?

[Amazing Larry]

18 minutes ago, RendZone said:

So be honest. What level of firmness did you choose for your MyPillow?

Lol. I have a guy at my office who watches that channel on one of the tv’s on the main floor. I told him the other day to turn it off. He’ll be a lot happier from now on. All television media is garbage. 

[fan_since79]

7 hours ago, ScottT said:

This three week hiatus on some random things will definitely make a difference.  It'll put things off.  It'll force businesses to close.  It will mean adding to the unemployment mess.   The virus will still be here in three weeks. I don't have the answers, but this isn't one.

The virus will actually be around to some degree or another for thousands of years. The best we can do is get a vaccine and some effective treatments for those who catch it.

Each year there will be a flu season and hopefully to a much lesser extent a COVID season. We'll just have to endure it.

 

[tennischmp]

2 hours ago, Lhalo said:

Link?

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona-health/2020/06/29/arizona-coronavirus-update-steady-number-hospitalizations-reported/3278375001/

[tennischmp]

2 hours ago, ScottT said:

They aren't getting around anything. They are following the rules trying to survive 

They are getting around the governor's order of all bars having to close

[Redondo]

2 hours ago, tennischmp said:

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona-health/2020/06/29/arizona-coronavirus-update-steady-number-hospitalizations-reported/3278375001/

It says Covid and other patients. Not all Covid.

[tennischmp]

7 minutes ago, Redondo said:

It says Covid and other patients. Not all Covid.

Your point?

[Redondo]

51 minutes ago, tennischmp said:

Your point?

People are making it appear as it's all Covid when it's not. We don't have it that bad here so the article doesn't represent the entire state. 

[Adam]

I'm headed to Scottsdale in a couple weeks. As long as the golf courses aren't closed I'm all good

[RallyMo]

40 minutes ago, Adam said:

I'm headed to Scottsdale in a couple weeks. As long as the golf courses aren't closed I'm all good

As long as @Redondo doesn't go bar hopping and then infect the course staff, you should be good.

[hangin n wangin]

1 hour ago, Adam said:

I'm headed to Scottsdale in a couple weeks. As long as the golf courses aren't closed I'm all good

They try to take away golf again and I will be back to walking on courses for free again.

[ScottT]

9 hours ago, tennischmp said:

They are getting around the governor's order of all bars having to close

Lol. No. They don't have to close. They wouldn't have to close.  They've never had to close. They have to stop serving for on site consumption.

[gotbeer]

BTW, it's not really mainstream since at least locally all they are covering is MLB and NBA.  But the NHL is close to training camps.  But here is the big thing and why we might not have any sports for a while.

Since voluntary workouts began on June 8, 26 players have tested positive for the Rona.  This is in addition to 11 others outside of the voluntary workouts.  The 26 is out of 250 players tested.  That's over 10%, which is a lot higher than the general public.  I'm sure the NBA is going to go through similar numbers, considering their players were getting it even with the lockdown.  

But it's not a good sign, and tells me there is something about how the Rona spreads that we don't know about.  

[tennischmp]

7 hours ago, Redondo said:

People are making it appear as it's all Covid when it's not. We don't have it that bad here so the article doesn't represent the entire state. 

Well you missed the point then. It’s not about what people making anything appear it’s about the hospitals capacity to treat more Covid patients. After all ICU beds are occupied they will have problems.

[tennischmp]

1 hour ago, ScottT said:

Lol. No. They don't have to close. They wouldn't have to close.  They've never had to close. They have to stop serving for on site consumption.

Ok great so what are you complaining about? I don’t get it. 

[Amazing Larry]

1 hour ago, gotbeer said:

The 26 is out of 250 players tested.  That's over 10%, which is a lot higher than the general public.

Are you sure? All the players have been tested whereas not everyone in the general public has. I bet the public’s numbers are similar to the NHL’s. 

[gotbeer]

2 hours ago, hangin n wangin said:

They try to take away golf again and I will be back to walking on courses for free again.