SARS-CoV-2 and COVID-19

[RallyMo]

7 minutes ago, Adam said:

It would’ve been nice had she captured both

Why is it her responsibility to mention both when posting that picture?

[RallyMo]

1 hour ago, Lhalo said:

The number of available ICU beds in Orange County seem to be consistently fine. 

 

That's not the chart I'd look at to gauge ICU bed availability, but y'all do indeed have decent capacity right now. The thing is that this can explode, and quickly. Furthermore, there may be capacity, but with increased bed occupancy comes altered staffing ratios and circumstance-determined rationing/direction of care.

If people want to get back to some semblance of normal, they need to do what they can to reduce transmission. 

[Adam]

44 minutes ago, fishbulb said:

Why is it her responsibility to mention both when posting that picture?

Because her commentary on the photo she did post would be far more valid, had she.

[Amazing Larry]

12 minutes ago, fishbulb said:

That's not the chart I'd look at to gauge ICU bed availability, but y'all do indeed have decent capacity right now. The thing is that this can explode, and quickly. Furthermore, there may be capacity, but with increased bed occupancy comes altered staffing ratios and circumstance-determined rationing/direction of care.

If people want to get back to some semblance of normal, they need to do what they can to reduce transmission. 

I disagree. I think the only way we get past this is through herd immunity. I have about as much faith in a vaccine ridding the planet of this virus as I do the Federal Reserve raising rates. I don’t care what promises scarf lady and Dr. Keebler make. 

[RallyMo]

2 minutes ago, Adam said:

Because her commentary on the photo she did post would be far more valid, had she.

Fair enough, I guess.

I kinda think it's the imagery of a guy covering his eyes, plugging his ears and wearing a token of political allegiance that drives her commentary.

You're not wrong that mass gatherings are super bad through at this point.

[RallyMo]

4 minutes ago, Lhalo said:

I disagree. I think the only way we get past this is through herd immunity. I have about as much faith in a vaccine ridding the planet of this virus as I do the Federal Reserve raising rates. I don’t care what promises scarf lady and Dr. Keebler make. 

You actually agree, you just don't know it. I'm not suggesting lockdowns.

Herd immunity, if it can be achieved, can be reached without unleashing a tidal wave of cases that overwhelms the system's ability to adequately care for those that do get sick and need to be hospitalized.

[Amazing Larry]

3 minutes ago, fishbulb said:

You actually agree, you just don't know it. I'm not suggesting lockdowns.

Herd immunity, if it can be achieved, can be reached without unleashing a tidal wave of cases that overwhelms the system's ability to adequately care for those that do get sick and need to be hospitalized.

That’s why I believe things have to be handled on a local level. Places like OC should be opened up until our hospitals start to become overwhelmed. The way Newsom is starting to handle it is improving (county by county basis). 

[Blarg]

3 hours ago, calscuf said:

I sold it.  I got tired of people assuming I had a little pecker.  Now it’s just me and my Touareg.

They didn't assume, your wife told them. 

[angelinkc]

1 hour ago, fishbulb said:

You actually agree, you just don't know it. I'm not suggesting lockdowns.

Herd immunity, if it can be achieved, can be reached without unleashing a tidal wave of cases that overwhelms the system's ability to adequately care for those that do get sick and need to be hospitalized.

About time you said something reasonable 

[RallyMo]

10 minutes ago, angelinkc said:

About time you said something reasonable 

Agreed.

It had almost been an hour since the last time before that. 

Gotta keep my streak going.

[tennischmp]

1 hour ago, Lhalo said:

That’s why I believe things have to be handled on a local level. Places like OC should be opened up until our hospitals start to become overwhelmed. The way Newsom is starting to handle it is improving (county by county basis). 

That makes zero sense and I never understood it. I can drive 10 minutes to the next county if my county is on lockdown to a bar and either give the virus to that county or bring in back to my county. That’s the problem with local and even state handling. If states can’t stop people from coming it defeats the purpose of a lockdown if people can just go to next state over.

[tennischmp]

1 hour ago, fishbulb said:

You actually agree, you just don't know it. I'm not suggesting lockdowns.

Herd immunity, if it can be achieved, can be reached without unleashing a tidal wave of cases that overwhelms the system's ability to adequately care for those that do get sick and need to be hospitalized.

Unfortunately with the way things are trending another lockdown is inevitable.

[RallyMo]

1 hour ago, Lhalo said:

That’s why I believe things have to be handled on a local level. Places like OC should be opened up until our hospitals start to become overwhelmed. The way Newsom is starting to handle it is improving (county by county basis). 

I think you're correct that it should be handled at a local level, but with considerable coordination in highly populated areas. LA and OC should be doing just about the same thing as one another. I think that it also should vary state to state. In a place like California, it makes sense to split it up. In a smaller place that's filled with idiots like Missouri, it's likely best that they all be told exactly what to do as they can barely tie their own shoes or brush their teeth without assistance. There's a reason we tuck those people away in that location.

[Don]

4 minutes ago, fishbulb said:

I think you're correct that it should be handled at a local level, but with considerable coordination in highly populated areas. LA and OC should be doing just about the same thing as one another. I think that it also should vary state to state. In a place like California, it makes sense to split it up. In a smaller place that's filled with idiots like Missouri, it's likely best that they all be told exactly what to do as they can barely tie their own shoes or brush their teeth without assistance. There's a reason we tuck those people away in that location.

Hey man. KC doesn’t rep for all of us.

[Adam]

14 minutes ago, tennischmp said:

Unfortunately with the way things are trending another lockdown is inevitable.

Nah. We can’t afford it 

[RallyMo]

What's really crushing to me about this situation in Texas is that due to people acting like total idiots, the previous lockdown was all for naught. People are so selfish. We had really managed to keep things rather chill here. We're preparing for the worst case.

[Jason]

5 minutes ago, fishbulb said:

What's really crushing to me about this situation in Texas is that due to people acting like total idiots, the previous lockdown was all for naught. People are so selfish. We had really managed to keep things rather chill here. We're preparing for the worst case.

Wait until next year when there's no vaccine and we are on our 4th wave of it 

[tennischmp]

10 minutes ago, fishbulb said:

What's really crushing to me about this situation in Texas is that due to people acting like total idiots, the previous lockdown was all for naught. People are so selfish. We had really managed to keep things rather chill here. We're preparing for the worst case.

It’s not just Texas people are like that all over the country. People screening my freedom during lockdown, people screening my rights not wanting to wear masks. That’s why I don’t believe in local lockdowns, those people will just go to a different locality or state and ruin it for those that follow the lockdown.

[angelinkc]

This virus either ends in November or Biden wins and it becomes the emergency needed to fully implement all the socialist entitlement programs.

[RallyMo]

10 minutes ago, angelinkc said:

This virus either ends in November or Biden wins and it becomes the emergency needed to fully implement all the socialist entitlement programs.

This virus is nothing but political to you. 

[Don]

22 minutes ago, angelinkc said:

This virus either ends in November or Biden wins and it becomes the emergency needed to fully implement all the socialist entitlement programs.

Honestly, if a single payer healthcare system is what comes out of all of this, I’d be quite good with it. 

[angelinkc]

1 hour ago, fishbulb said:

This virus is nothing but political to you. 

Do you really think Biden is in his basement to save lives ? All these dem politicians locked everyone down until a racist virus broke out. Suddenly they cheered as thugs looted in the streets. They even joined several protesters. The party of the black man encouraging black Americans to gather in the streets with the supposedly  deadliest pandemic in 100 years. Either the dems truly hate blacks or the virus is being exaggerated a bit. Since corona has emerged every other ailment known to man has decreased. 120k dead with corona and every other disease is -30k combined. We need to put things in perspective and protect the elderly. I’m ok with mask wearing in enclosed environments but stop over estimating mask  effectiveness. Ultimately it is the distance.  Material, fit, and cleanliness all play a role and most mask wearers are failing in at least one of those areas. 

[angelinkc]

1 hour ago, Don said:

Honestly, if a single payer healthcare system is what comes out of all of this, I’d be quite good with it. 

I’m against it but i believe it will be priority number one for Dems 

[St1ck]

1 hour ago, angelinkc said:

This virus either ends in November or Biden wins and it becomes the emergency needed to fully implement all the socialist entitlement programs.

Apparently the US is the only place this viras has hit.

[Don]

8 minutes ago, angelinkc said:

I’m against it but i believe it will be priority number one for Dems 

I get ya. I’m just in the camp of feeling like I could be bankrupted by med bills at any time despite being firmly middle class. I don’t think that’s a good thing to say about a society.