Would you resign Vargas after this year?

[Scott34]

Not the point.

Weaver/CJ/Vargas/Hanson/Blanton>Weaver/CJ/Hanson/Blanton/Richards or Williams. Especially when at least one of them (except Blanton) goes down for any length of time next year (and you know it will happen...Weaver's 2nd year in a row with DL time this year, and he's not getting any younger).

I would rather have that set up and 60ish M a sandwich pick, yes.

[Mark68]

I would rather have that set up and 60ish M a sandwich pick, yes.

Ok, would you rather have that and 60ish million with NO sandwich pick?

[Scott34]

Ok, would you rather have that and 60ish million with NO sandwich pick?

Tough call. Probably not.

[Mark68]

Don't get me wrong, I'd rather not have to spend $60 million on re-signing Vargas, but there won't be any better options for the money, and he's been our best pitcher so far. We really won't have a choice.

[rageous]

So all they have to do is offer him arbitration to get that first round pick right?

I think offer him 4 years 45 million and if he turns it down then offer him arbitration.

[Brent Maguire]

4/45 with a vesting option would probably work. 

[Chuck]

Yes. I'm most definitely in favor of signing Jason Vargas. 4/40 sounds about right. 

[Wallerrrr]

It's still early but if so what would it take to resign him?

If not do you think it's possible to get a first round draft pick for him?

i'll answer in aug/sept

 

he is kicking @ss tho so far

[nando714]

If he's over 30

10yrs is a good starting point

[Torridd]

We don't have a lot of options and he's a California guy, isn't he? I'd like to keep him and see if we can upgrade Hanson and Blanton's slots.

[Jimmag]

Hell yes, resign him.

[YouthofToday]

As long as Hanson is healthy is a very effective. Lets wait and see how his shoulder holds up before making judgments on his 2014 role.

[gotbeer]

I'd go a 3 year deal.   Start at 3/$30, which might get it done.  This way you can see if he wants length or $$.  

 

Might have to settle on a 3/$39 though.  His WHIP is kind of high career wise though for $13 million a year.  If he wants higher than that, offer him arb, and let someone else overpay.  

 

I think his final year of arbitration was skewed a bit on the high side because of his 1.18 WHIP, 3.85 ERA he had last year.  Which is considerably lower than any other year he's had.  He's an average 1.31 WHIP, 4.27 ERA, which puts him in the #3-5 pitcher range.  

[austin724]

Yes, but probably only a two or three year deal max.

[stormngt]

It's still early but if so what would it take to resign him?

If not do you think it's possible to get a first round draft pick for him?

Yes, I would resign him.  Who the hell could we get to replace him?  I know we don't have any replacements in house!

[stormngt]

No. Offer him arbitration and let someone else overpay for him. Take the pick.

and Enright can be our fifth pitcher next year!

[Jay]

I like Vargas, let's see how he does against good teams.

[Scott34]

Vargas gets 70M easy on the open market. No freakin way he signs for 40M.

[ettin]

There's no way the Angels should pay him that much. I'd be shocked if he got that much. 

 

Then I think you should put on your rubber slippers because the price of pitching skyrocketed this off-season and all it is doing is heading up. 5/60 might be too many years but $12 for a pitcher at his skill level is about right.

[rageous]

Vargas gets 70M easy on the open market. No freakin way he signs for 40M.

That's what I am afraid of.

And this is going ot be his last payday so he will most likely take the best offer regardless of where it comes from.

[xboom28x]

Vargas isn't worth $70M at his age.

 

3/36 or 4/40 max. If he leaves, save the money. I'm tired of the Angels overpaying for players over 30 years old. It has to stop somewhere.

[Brent Maguire]

People think he's worth more than 60 mil on the free agent market? He's over 30 and is usually around a 4 ERA with meh WHIP's, K/9 and BB/9. He's done very well this year but he's not worth anything over 60 mil, IMO, even with this depleted free agent market and uprising costs. 

[Corona]

I'd go a 3 year deal.   Start at 3/$30, which might get it done.  This way you can see if he wants length or $$.  

 

Might have to settle on a 3/$39 though.  His WHIP is kind of high career wise though for $13 million a year.  If he wants higher than that, offer him arb, and let someone else overpay.  

 

I think his final year of arbitration was skewed a bit on the high side because of his 1.18 WHIP, 3.85 ERA he had last year.  Which is considerably lower than any other year he's had.  He's an average 1.31 WHIP, 4.27 ERA, which puts him in the #3-5 pitcher range.  

 

I like this, but I doubt it would be enough to land him.

[Bruce Nye]

He's from this area.  He's a good friend of Weaver's.  He likes it here.  So the intangibles are in place.

 

He has pitched far better than any of the naysayers here thought he would.  My bet is that he is the AL Pitcher of the Month - 5-0 and less than 3.0 ERA.

 

If he has a good year, I like the 5/60.

[Senor Piva]

Like with Lohse, would take a qualifying offer to secure a draft pick.  Was $13M/1 year for Lohse, probably be a bit more.  Here's the list of potential free agent starting pitchers, as per Baseball Prospectus (asterisk means there's a club option for 2014)

 

Starting Pitchers
Bronson Arroyo
Scott Baker
Erik Bedard
Nick Blackburn *
A.J. Burnett
Chris Capuano *
Chris Carpenter
Bruce Chen
Bartolo Colon
Aaron Cook
Jorge De La Rosa
Scott Feldman
Gavin Floyd
Jeff Francis
Armando Galarraga
Jon Garland
Matt Garza
Roy Halladay *
Jason Hammel
Aaron Harang *
Rich Harden
Dan Haren
Roberto Hernandez
Tim Hudson
Phil Hughes
Ubaldo Jimenez *
Josh Johnson
Jeff Karstens
Hiroki Kuroda
John Lannan
Jon Lester *
Colby Lewis
Ted Lilly
Tim Lincecum
Derek Lowe
Paul Maholm
Shaun Marcum
Jason Marquis
Daisuke Matsuzaka
Brett Myers *
Ricky Nolasco
Mike Pelfrey
Andy Pettitte
Wandy Rodriguez *
Jonathan Sanchez
Ervin Santana
Johan Santana *
Joe Saunders *
James Shields *
Tim Stauffer
Jason Vargas
Ryan Vogelsong *
Edinson Volquez
Tsuyoshi Wada *
Chien-Ming Wang
Chris Young
Barry Zito