Israel vs. Palestine

[AngelsLakersFan]

48 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

I think it’s 99.9% that Americas shittiest infrastructure in the wealthy west and also substantially worse than what they have in most of developed east Asia is probably what’s going on with the train derailments.  I don’t think the Quassam brigades have commando units derailing our trains.  Seems like they’ve got a pretty big Zionist invasion heading their way that they’re probably focusing on.  

I’m pretty sure Hamas is doing the train derailments

[UndertheHalo]

1 minute ago, AngelsLakersFan said:

I’m pretty sure Hamas is doing the train derailments

Ya.  I mean you might be right.  Who can say. 

[St1ck]

17 minutes ago, AngelsLakersFan said:

I’m pretty sure Hamas is doing the train derailments

It's because investing in our infrastructure is Socialism. We need to focus more on tax cuts for corporations and investigating Hunter Biden. 

[Taylor]

18 minutes ago, St1ck said:

It's because investing in our infrastructure is Socialism. We need to focus more on tax cuts for corporations and investigating Hunter Biden. 

Join the Discord please sir

[Redondo]

Take it from a Palestinian refugee: Israel’s Gaza invasion is necessary and welcome

The raping, torture and murder that Hamas has committed is inexcusable

On Oct. 13, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) announced that they had entered the outskirts of the Gaza Strip. As a Palestinian refugee myself, Israel’s forthcoming liberation of the Gaza Strip is long overdue. 

Hamas perpetrated a massacre when they violated Israel on Oct. 7, and in a spree of bloodcurdling violence, they tortured and raped children, women and the elderly, murdering over 1,300 and taking an estimated 150 hostages to Gaza for continuing abuse.

As a Palestinian, I find the actions of the terrorist group beyond abhorrent. During its brutal invasion, Hamas killed, injured and abducted scores of Muslim Israelis, including Bedouins. 

Hamas, the regime that just committed shocking genocide and used rape as a weapon of war, seized military control of the Gaza Strip from the weak forces of the Palestinian Authority (PA) and local warlords in 2007. Under their regime, LGBTQ+ Palestinians are executed and public music is prohibited. Even as Hamas misgoverns the Strip as a terrorist haven, it is a much-maligned Israel that, until this week, has provided large portions of the energy, food and medical supplies that keep it functioning. 

Israel never wanted control of Gaza, and between Israel’s independence and 1967, it was controlled by Egypt, which never attempted to create a Palestinian state on its territory. Israel gained control of this territory during the 1967 Six-Day War but unilaterally departed under Ariel Sharon in the disengagement of 2005, withdrawing over 5,000 settlers.

The beginning of the experiment in Gazan self-government was not auspicious; as soon as the Israelis departed, Palestinian looters stripped and destroyed the greenhouses and other productive enterprises left behind as a goodwill gesture. For the past 18 years, there has not been a single Israeli settler or soldier in Gaza.

Since that time, Hamas has engaged in a series of escalating provocations in short and sharp conflicts, largely featuring rocket attacks rained down on Israeli cities and, in a heartbreaking national trauma, the kidnapping of Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit in 2006, who remained a hostage to Hamas forces for five years.

In hindsight, this incident was an eerie premonition of the capture and enslavement of innocents that Hamas just carried out on a massive scale. Now, on top of sexual abuse and torture, it is feared that the hostages will be used for the same purposes as Hamas has long used the Gazan people: as human shields to protect Hamas military and political assets.

Take it from a Palestinian perspective, the unforgivable brutality Hamas just displayed against Israelis is what our population has experienced from these cold-blooded murderers and thugs for the past 16 years since they took control of Gaza in 2007.

In the days and weeks ahead, innocent Palestinian blood will be on the hands of Hamas as they pay a terrible price for their villainy, as Israel does everything in its power to bring its people home. Don’t fall for the tricks of antisemites perpetrating lies about who is responsible for this war; believe your own eyes and common sense: the raping, torture and murder that Hamas has committed is inexcusable, full stop. 

Gaza’s liberation is long overdue; please, Israel, deliver our people from the wicked power of Hamas.

.https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/palestinian-refugee-israels-gaza-invasion-necessary-welcome

[Spirit]

8 hours ago, St1ck said:

It's because investing in our infrastructure is Socialism. We need to focus more on tax cuts for corporations and investigating Hunter Biden. 

 

Silly.  All of our money is going overseas to Ukraine and Israel. 

 

[ten ocho recon scout]

12 hours ago, Taylor said:

Israel has been doing shit like this since before Hamas existed.

And the counterargument is that prior to Hamas, the Palestinians were doing shit like this.

Again, Isreal isn't "the good guy". But some of you are seriously looking past what Hamas just did, and what the Palestinian terror groups have been doing since the 70s.

The PLO and it's various partners were Al Qaeda before Al Qaeda. 

 

[Amazing Larry]

Nobody wants these assholes. 

 

[arch stanton]

If the Arabs start taking Palestinian refugees the Israelis will empty out the West Bank in no time

[Taylor]

52 minutes ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

And the counterargument is that prior to Hamas, the Palestinians were doing shit like this.

Again, Isreal isn't "the good guy". But some of you are seriously looking past what Hamas just did, and what the Palestinian terror groups have been doing since the 70s.

The PLO and it's various partners were Al Qaeda before Al Qaeda. 

And who created these terrorist organizations? The United States by funding and arming radical Islamist groups in the fight against cOmMuNiSm.

We have two evil sides and a bunch of innocent people (whom Larry refers to as "assholes") caught in between, just trying to live their damn lives.

[Jay]

On 10/14/2023 at 3:16 PM, Taylor said:

Basically all Middle Eastern terrorism came out of groups the United States funded and armed in the fight against cOmMuNiSm.

 

5 minutes ago, Taylor said:

And who created these terrorist organizations? The United States by funding and arming radical Islamist groups in the fight against cOmMuNiSm.

Either you're trolling or you're on the spectrum.

Edited October 17, 2023 by Jay

[Amazing Larry]

7 minutes ago, Taylor said:

And who created these terrorist organizations? The United States by funding and arming radical Islamist groups in the fight against cOmMuNiSm.

We have two evil sides and a bunch of innocent people (whom Larry refers to as "assholes") caught in between, just trying to live their damn lives.

Your self-hatred is on a whole other level. 

[Taylor]

1 minute ago, Lhalo said:

Your self-hatred is on a whole other level. 

It's self-hatred to point out what your country's government has done?

[Taylor]

5 minutes ago, Jay said:

 

Either you're trolling or you're on the spectrum.

Lmao, my phone now autocorrects Communism to cOmMuNiSm.

[Blarg]

Taylor, you stupid fuck twit, communism isn't any part of the Middle East equation. 

[Taylor]

11 minutes ago, Blarg said:

Taylor, you stupid fuck twit, communism isn't any part of the Middle East equation. 

For someone who has been around for seven decades, you should understand that actions that occurred in the past have effects on the present. 

[cals]

51 minutes ago, Lhalo said:

Nobody wants these assholes. 

 

My take on that is that Jordan and Egypt aren’t going to let Israel empty out Gaza and then take it over for luxury beach bars and hippy communes while Jordan and Egypt deal with 2 million displaced people.

[cals]

4 hours ago, Redondo said:

Take it from a Palestinian refugee: Israel’s Gaza invasion is necessary and welcome

The raping, torture and murder that Hamas has committed is inexcusable

On Oct. 13, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) announced that they had entered the outskirts of the Gaza Strip. As a Palestinian refugee myself, Israel’s forthcoming liberation of the Gaza Strip is long overdue. 

Hamas perpetrated a massacre when they violated Israel on Oct. 7, and in a spree of bloodcurdling violence, they tortured and raped children, women and the elderly, murdering over 1,300 and taking an estimated 150 hostages to Gaza for continuing abuse.

As a Palestinian, I find the actions of the terrorist group beyond abhorrent. During its brutal invasion, Hamas killed, injured and abducted scores of Muslim Israelis, including Bedouins. 

Hamas, the regime that just committed shocking genocide and used rape as a weapon of war, seized military control of the Gaza Strip from the weak forces of the Palestinian Authority (PA) and local warlords in 2007. Under their regime, LGBTQ+ Palestinians are executed and public music is prohibited. Even as Hamas misgoverns the Strip as a terrorist haven, it is a much-maligned Israel that, until this week, has provided large portions of the energy, food and medical supplies that keep it functioning. 

Israel never wanted control of Gaza, and between Israel’s independence and 1967, it was controlled by Egypt, which never attempted to create a Palestinian state on its territory. Israel gained control of this territory during the 1967 Six-Day War but unilaterally departed under Ariel Sharon in the disengagement of 2005, withdrawing over 5,000 settlers.

The beginning of the experiment in Gazan self-government was not auspicious; as soon as the Israelis departed, Palestinian looters stripped and destroyed the greenhouses and other productive enterprises left behind as a goodwill gesture. For the past 18 years, there has not been a single Israeli settler or soldier in Gaza.

Since that time, Hamas has engaged in a series of escalating provocations in short and sharp conflicts, largely featuring rocket attacks rained down on Israeli cities and, in a heartbreaking national trauma, the kidnapping of Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit in 2006, who remained a hostage to Hamas forces for five years.

In hindsight, this incident was an eerie premonition of the capture and enslavement of innocents that Hamas just carried out on a massive scale. Now, on top of sexual abuse and torture, it is feared that the hostages will be used for the same purposes as Hamas has long used the Gazan people: as human shields to protect Hamas military and political assets.

Take it from a Palestinian perspective, the unforgivable brutality Hamas just displayed against Israelis is what our population has experienced from these cold-blooded murderers and thugs for the past 16 years since they took control of Gaza in 2007.

In the days and weeks ahead, innocent Palestinian blood will be on the hands of Hamas as they pay a terrible price for their villainy, as Israel does everything in its power to bring its people home. Don’t fall for the tricks of antisemites perpetrating lies about who is responsible for this war; believe your own eyes and common sense: the raping, torture and murder that Hamas has committed is inexcusable, full stop. 

Gaza’s liberation is long overdue; please, Israel, deliver our people from the wicked power of Hamas.

.https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/palestinian-refugee-israels-gaza-invasion-necessary-welcome

You gotta love Fox.  They’ve done the “I’m a black guy and I hate BLM” and “I’m Mexican and I support a wall” and now this.  Good shit, Redondo.

[cals]

47 minutes ago, arch stanton said:

If the Arabs start taking Palestinian refugees the Israelis will empty out the West Bank in no time

Yeah this too.

[St1ck]

21 minutes ago, Blarg said:

Taylor, you stupid fuck twit, communism isn't any part of the Middle East equation. 

Uh oh

[cals]

1 hour ago, Blarg said:

Taylor, you stupid fuck twit, communism isn't any part of the Middle East equation. 

Pretty sure this violates the TOS.

[cals]

It's OK @St1ck, I reported it. Let's just hope a mod, not a not mod mod, see it. 

[cals]

How much mod could a not mod mod, if a not mod could mod mod?

[St1ck]

5 minutes ago, cals said:

It's OK @St1ck, I reported it. Let's just hope a mod, not a not mod mod, see it. 

It's the right thing to do. I just want a place were we can express our political opinions without being verbally assaulted. It's a shame some people can't follow the guidelines set by our excellent group of moderators. 

[cals]

1 minute ago, St1ck said:

It's the right thing to do. I just want a place were we can express our political opinions without being verbally assaulted. It's a shame some people can't follow the guidelines set by our excellent group of moderators. 

Big floppy donkey dick.

Maybe that will get their attention.