The Official Los Angeles Lakers Thread

[Angel Oracle]

Yep, the number of 3s taken so far is ridiculous.

His minutes are down a little.   But the talk of benching him for the 2nd of back-to-back nights is yet to be seen. 

It's still a lot of minutes for a 37 year-old who's only played half of a season over the past 2 seasons. 

Edited November 9, 2015 by Angel Oracle

[xboom28x]

I've seen Kobe be a facilitator in the past. He went through a stretch a few years ago where he tried to get double digit assists for about 6 or 7 games. Then went back to being Kobe. I'd like for old man Kobe to become more of a facilitator.

 

I also wonder if some of us would feel this way about Kobe if we didn't watch Magic do it "the right way" when it came to knowing his role and making the most of it.

[Ray McKigney]

Kobe needs to pass the ball. Last game, I watched him get the ball on the inbound, walk it all the way down court, and shoot with about 10 seconds left on the shot clock. He didn't even pretend that he was going to pass it. Didn't even look at another teammate. He does that regularly. It has to make the other four guys try to figure out why they're even out there. I think Byron Scott needs to limit his minutes even more than he is currently. One of the problems is that Byron was still on the team during Kobe's rookie season. I think Byron and Kobe's relationship is more peer-to-peer than it is coach/player. Of course, this is only my speculation, but something definitely isn't working.

[NrM]

You guys act like the Lakers would be so much better if Kobe shoots 3-4 fewer times a game or something...

They're the worst team in the West with or without Kobe....

 

Just try to enjoy his last season as much as you can. I grew up with him. I'm not going complain 24/7 in his more than likely final season.

 

You think Yankees fans bitched about Jeter's struggles 24/7 in his final season?

Edited November 11, 2015 by Poozy

[NrM]

Kobe needs to pass the ball. Last game, I watched him get the ball on the inbound, walk it all the way down court, and shoot with about 10 seconds left on the shot clock. He didn't even pretend that he was going to pass it. Didn't even look at another teammate. He does that regularly. It has to make the other four guys try to figure out why they're even out there. I think Byron Scott needs to limit his minutes even more than he is currently. One of the problems is that Byron was still on the team during Kobe's rookie season. I think Byron and Kobe's relationship is more peer-to-peer than it is coach/player. Of course, this is only my speculation, but something definitely isn't working.

 

Even without Kobe, it's all iso ball or 3 point chucking.

There's no off the ball movement with Byron Scott.

[Angel Oracle]

To be fair though, basketball first and foremost nowadays starts with having a really good backcourt.

Russell at 19 as an NBA PG is different from a NBA frontcourt player being 19.

 

On the Kobe subject, I am going to enjoy thinking back on his career for many years.   However, he eventually needs to phase out shooting the ball so much, so that others can grow into the offense.   And if that means another top 3 draft pick, THEN they can select the best available post player and then hopefully sign Durant. 

[Ray McKigney]

Even without Kobe, it's all iso ball or 3 point chucking.

There's no off the ball movement with Byron Scott.

 

Last night, three possessions in a row, Nick Young gets the first pass from the point guard, dribbles a couple of times and then chucks up a 3-pointer that barely hits the rim. Surprisingly, it was about this time that the Heat started pulling ahead. It's tough to watch.

[Ray McKigney]

Okafor is 19 years old. So is Porzingas.

 

 

I know nobody will admit for 2-3 years but the lakers 100% !@#$ed up that pick in historic fashion.

 

My brother was just saying this a couple of days ago. I also think it might have been a mistake. We should know after another month or so. If DR doesn't start looking better, it could spell lights out for this organization for many years to come.

[Angel Oracle]

I'm not sure what to make of Scott in all of this.

The guy coached NJ to the 2002 NBA Finals, granted the Eastern Conference was as weak as it is now.

[Angel Oracle]

Progress, not perfection I guess
Lose by 2 as former USC star Vucevic scores at the buzzer.
Russell scores 14.

Edited November 12, 2015 by Angel Oracle

[xboom28x]

Okafor is 19 years old. So is Porzingas.

 

 

I know nobody will admit for 2-3 years but the lakers 100% !@#$ed up that pick in historic fashion.

 

Because everyone develops at the same rate?

[xboom28x]

My brother was just saying this a couple of days ago. I also think it might have been a mistake. We should know after another month or so. If DR doesn't start looking better, it could spell lights out for this organization for many years to come.

 

Someone bookmark this...

[Hollyw00d]

Because everyone develops at the same rate?

Maybe not, but all of the players picked around him have been doing much better

At this point, it looks like a serious reach

[xboom28x]

Maybe not, but all of the players picked around him have been doing much better

At this point, it looks like a serious reach

 

Big men have a distinct advantage because they are around the rim and can get rebounds and putbacks to make their stats not look so terrible. If you compare him to other rookie guards in the league picked around him like Mudiay and Hezonja, Russell's numbers are equal or better.

[NrM]

Okafor has been atrocious at everything but scoring tbh..

 

There's a reason Philly is still winless..

[xboom28x]

Lakers win, and this place is a ghost town. Sign of the times.

[Angel Oracle]

Russell's play continues to stabilize, now has a 28/16 assts/TOs ratio.

They aren't getting blown out much, although the schedule has been friendly so far.

 

Bryant seems to be getting really close to hanging them up.   Too much is happening physically for him.   

[NrM]

I was at last nights game. I didn't know how to feel since I'm all for the tank.

 

Was pissed that Russell didn't play any of the 4th. **** byron scott.

Edited November 16, 2015 by Poozy

[Stradling]

I was at last nights game. I didn't know how to feel since I'm all for the tank.

Was pissed that Russell didn't play any of the 4th. **** byron scott.

I was there as well. I thought since the team was winning I understood why Russel sat. My issue is in games where you are down you might as well put Russel in in the fourth to gain the experience.

[m0nkey]

They're not going to do anything this season anyway, wouldn't you want him playing so he could get the experience?

[m0nkey]

I've also found it hard to hate kobe the past couple years.  I'm in the appreciation stage for him

[Stradling]

They're not going to do anything this season anyway, wouldn't you want him playing so he could get the experience?

I agree with this, but if you are leading going into the fourth quarter you should be your best players out there in an effort to win the game.

[Angel Oracle]

At some point, hopefully as the midway point of the season approaches, Russell will be in there for the 4th quarter regardless of who's leading the game.

[Hollyw00d]

Lakers win, and this place is a ghost town. Sign of the times.

Are you not aware that they're 2-8 after that win?

LOL

[Hollyw00d]

In other words, they're on pace for 64 losses