The Official Los Angeles Angels 2023-2024 Hot Stove Offseason Thread

[EdmontonAngelsFan]

2 hours ago, Dtwncbad said:

I have it for you.  Here you go:

I laughed WAYYY to hard at this while at work!

[jsnpritchett]

 

[DMVol]

I know this has been discussed but I guess it flew over my head. Looks like Montgomery will wait until the season starts to sign, which would avoid a Qualifying Offer (again) after this season. Old rule used to be you had to wait until after the draft:

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/03/why-jordan-montgomery-may-wait-until-the-season-starts-to-sign.html

[tdawg87]

4 minutes ago, DMVol said:

I know this has been discussed but I guess it flew over my head. Looks like Montgomery will wait until the season starts to sign, which would avoid a Qualifying Offer (again) after this season. Old rule used to be you had to wait until after the draft:

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/03/why-jordan-montgomery-may-wait-until-the-season-starts-to-sign.html

"Will" =/= "may"

But seriously I'm done with these guys. These contracts are stupid and now they're about to get even more stupid. 

[Dtwncbad]

10 minutes ago, DMVol said:

I know this has been discussed but I guess it flew over my head. Looks like Montgomery will wait until the season starts to sign, which would avoid a Qualifying Offer (again) after this season. Old rule used to be you had to wait until after the draft:

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/03/why-jordan-montgomery-may-wait-until-the-season-starts-to-sign.html

You are mixing up different things.  If Montgomery had a draft pick loss attached to him NOW (he already doesn’t) then a team could get around that by waiting to sign until the draft.

If Montgomery waits to sign until after the season opens, he will also again not have a draft pick loss attached to him NEXT year in his NEXT free agency.

At least that’s how I understand it. 

[jsnpritchett]

1 minute ago, Dtwncbad said:

You are mixing up different things.  If Montgomery had a draft pick loss attached to him NOW (he already doesn’t) then a team could get around that by waiting to sign until the draft.

If Montgomery waits to sign until after the season opens, he will also again not have a draft pick loss attached to him NEXT year in his NEXT free agency.

At least that’s how I understand it. 

Correct.  That's how I understand it, as well.

[ThisismineScios]

[DMVol]

38 minutes ago, Dtwncbad said:

You are mixing up different things.  If Montgomery had a draft pick loss attached to him NOW (he already doesn’t) then a team could get around that by waiting to sign until the draft.

If Montgomery waits to sign until after the season opens, he will also again not have a draft pick loss attached to him NEXT year in his NEXT free agency.

At least that’s how I understand it. 

Maybe I confused you. Sorry about that. I think we’re saying the same thing. 1) He has no draft pick attached now. 2) If he waits to sign until next week, there will be no draft pick attached after 2024, if he is a FA again. At least that is how I read the article. 

[Inside Pitch]

2 hours ago, Jay said:

Apparently "Arte wants to win" but is unwilling to do what it takes to win.

To be fair, if he finishes his business then he'll have nothing to look forward to.

[tdawg87]

Just now, Inside Pitch said:

To be fair, if he finishes his business then he'll have nothing to look forward to.

Arte out here permanently edging himself. 

[Dtwncbad]

9 minutes ago, ThisismineScios said:

Well Moreno was more correct than wrong here.  Ohtani’s contract was worth under $500m in today dollars.  Yes he agreed to a contract where he will eventually collect $700m.  But the only fair, mathematically rational way to Moreno’s assessment of what Ohtani would get would be to talk about it in today’s dollars.

[Inside Pitch]

1 minute ago, tdawg87 said:

Arte out here permanently edging himself. 

Baseball owner hamster wheel.

[T.G.]

23 minutes ago, ThisismineScios said:

That doesn't make sense if the reports are true that Ohtani gave Moreno an opportunity to match the Dodgers offer.

[mmc]

 

[mmc]

 

[jsnpritchett]

8 minutes ago, mmc said:

 

Someone please do a welfare check on @Angels 1961.

[rafibomb]

12 minutes ago, mmc said:

 

4.5 million? 

[ettin]

7 minutes ago, rafibomb said:

4.5 million? 

Make that $454 million and you could put up an entirely different picture there.

[Ochocinco!]

Looks like we really are going into the season with the roster at hand... I just cant understand. I suppose Martinez is possible because Heyman wont stop talking about him coming here but he also said that about snell for weeks. We really spent all our money on Robert Stephenson. I would have rather given that money to Martinez and just rolled with fliers on the bullpen like Garcia, Cimber, Zuniga etc for a 1-2 mill a piece. 

[Billy_Ball]

I always thought the Dodgers took a big gamble on giving Yamamoto a 12 year contract.  That's too risky for a pitcher.

[Angel Oracle]

2 hours ago, Billy_Ball said:

I always thought the Dodgers took a big gamble on giving Yamamoto a 12 year contract.  That's too risky for a pitcher.

Guggenheim treating money like

[EdmontonAngelsFan]

9 hours ago, mmc said:

Maybe that means they are out on Montgomery now?

[Jay]

9 hours ago, jsnpritchett said:

Someone please do a welfare check on @Angels 1961.

Wouldn't have hurt for the Angels to pick up Lorenzen to add depth. I guess we'll be seeing a lot of bullpen games this season.

[T.G.]

3 hours ago, Billy_Ball said:

I always thought the Dodgers took a big gamble on giving Yamamoto a 12 year contract.  That's too risky for a pitcher.

Yeah, they rolled the dice on that one.

[Erstad Grit]

I understand not getting Snell, passing on guys like Urshella, Lorenzen, etc have the possibility of exposing our lack of depth.