Gameday Thread (8/2/23 9:20am Pacific): Angels @ Braves: Giolito on the mound, Adams in CF

[eligrba4ever]

Long flight home for the Halos as the Halo again glows dimmer over the parking lot.

[daygloman]

Dissapointing, last two series.

[CaliAngel]

What a shit game.

 

[nando714]

Disappointing today but they got 1 game 

Drury back tomorrow hopefully 

and Ohtani on the bump 

we take 3 of 4 this weekend 

[HeavenlyHalos]

7 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:

After today, it'll be 31-37.

Thanks but I was referring to series' record, not total W/L.

[Angel Oracle]

12 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:

After today, it'll be 31-37.

Much better than earlier in the year 

[jsnpritchett]

3 minutes ago, HeavenlyHalos said:

Thanks but I was referring to series' record, not total W/L.

Whoops, sorry, skipped right over the word "series" in your post for some reason!  Not sure about series and don't want to do a hand count.  Ha ha.

[jsnpritchett]

 

 

[gurn67]

6 games in to 25 games in a row against teams over .500. 2-4 is not a good way to start at all. 

26th now if batting with RISP this season and with RISP and 2 outs. It's killed them this season. 

Of the guys with a significant number of at bats:

Renfroe .173

Rengifo . 200

Ward .211

Trout .214

Ohtani .306 and Drury .303 the only consistent clutch hitters they've had all season. Moniak was too, before falling off a cliff the last week.

[Biergott]

1 hour ago, nando714 said:

Kinda wish they gave Ohtani a day off 

especially w the heat , cross country flight, and starting tomorrow

And the fact Snitker didn’t let anyone pitch to him really

[Angels in 2030]

1 hour ago, HeavenlyHalos said:

What is your counter argument? 'wow...just wow.' Well said.

Fact is they are 5.5 (about to be 6) GB despite having everyone in the opening day lineup sans Renfroe and Ohtani missing significant time. I would say that is good enough for over a 6 game difference. Your rebuttal? Let me guess: "Noooo, just no"

How were they doing before the injuries?  Not leading the division.  Don't tell me Gio/etc. now makes the Angels so much better -- because both Texas and Houston got WAY better at the TDL.  

Seriously, being a fan is great and supporting the team.  But don't turn your head away from facts and reality -- they can prevent you from turning into a soccer mom.

[stormngt]

48 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:

 

 

Got to respect that

[Revad]

1 hour ago, Chuckster70 said:

I almost made the trip down again to take in this series and was going to attend yesterday and today's games for my birthday, but it was too close to making the driving trip from So. Cal to TN and quite frankly I was done with driving.

Looks like I made the right choice. 

We need to revive AW Southern Comfort event

[HeavenlyHalos]

42 minutes ago, Skips said:

How were they doing before the injuries?  Not leading the division.  Don't tell me Gio/etc. now makes the Angels so much better -- because both Texas and Houston got WAY better at the TDL.  

Seriously, being a fan is great and supporting the team.  But don't turn your head away from facts and reality -- they can prevent you from turning into a soccer mom.

O'Hoppe was hurt pretty early on in the season so the injuries started early but to answer your question, they were around 8 games over when 3/4 of the infield went down. That is a fact. So they were better than they are now and certainly would have had a better record with those guys available. Again, they would be closer or in 1st in the division. 

That is my point that, for some reason, you don't think is at all possible. I don't get it but you do you.

[Angels in 2030]

15 minutes ago, HeavenlyHalos said:

O'Hoppe was hurt pretty early on in the season so the injuries started early but to answer your question, they were around 8 games over when 3/4 of the infield went down. That is a fact. So they were better than they are now and certainly would have had a better record with those guys available. Again, they would be closer or in 1st in the division. 

That is my point that, for some reason, you don't think is at all possible. I don't get it but you do you.

You went from a certainty (they would be in first) to now saying it would be a possibility.  I wonder what's next.

Listen, i love the passion and the support/positivity.  But you seriously think O'Hoppe would have made the difference?  If anything, he was likely playing a little over his head and a come down was soon when the book got out on him.  Then you hope he could make the proper adjustments.  Regardless, you keep talkign injuries.  You do realize every team has injuries right?  Texas has lost a bunch of their top guys are periods.  IDK about Houston, but i'm guessing they have had injuries.  That's why the angels are not anything more than an average team -- lack of depth for when inevitable injuries occur.  The pitching staff has been pretty healthy for the year -- and they simply are not good enough....at least not good enough to win this division.  Or live in a dream world -- you do you

[fan_since79]

4 hours ago, AngelsFanSince86 said:

Why is he even on the team?

Tell me again how Fletcher is so much worse than Escobar. I was ridiculed when I spoke up in defense of him.

[TroutField]

Mariners about to leap frog the Angels by .5 game. 
 

Man this is so typical angels. 

[HeavenlyHalos]

1 hour ago, Skips said:

You went from a certainty (they would be in first) to now saying it would be a possibility.  I wonder what's next.

Listen, i love the passion and the support/positivity.  But you seriously think O'Hoppe would have made the difference?  If anything, he was likely playing a little over his head and a come down was soon when the book got out on him.  Then you hope he could make the proper adjustments.  Regardless, you keep talkign injuries.  You do realize every team has injuries right?  Texas has lost a bunch of their top guys are periods.  IDK about Houston, but i'm guessing they have had injuries.  That's why the angels are not anything more than an average team -- lack of depth for when inevitable injuries occur.  The pitching staff has been pretty healthy for the year -- and they simply are not good enough....at least not good enough to win this division.  Or live in a dream world -- you do you

Your first point is valid. The rest we will agree to disagree on. Nearly half the 40 man is injured, that is most certainly not applicable to every team. Anyways, I'll drop it now, enjoy the rest of your day.

[Jay]

Plenty of time, Angels just need to win games.

[tomsred]

5 hours ago, AngelsFaninGA said:

What's the reason for Adams starting? Rest day for Moniak? 

Moniak has a foot injury (from a foul ball off his foot), and it has been bothering him for some time.  Moniak has been trying to play through it, but this is what happens when you try to do it.

[Tank]

one thing we all learned together today is that adams has a strong arm.

[Revad]

51 minutes ago, Tank said:

one thing we all learned together today is that adams has a strong arm.

I was at the game, he was nervous I’m sure.  That throw to third damn, it it had been at the right trajectory he might have had him.

[Farmbuildingfan]

3 hours ago, Skips said:

You went from a certainty (they would be in first) to now saying it would be a possibility.  I wonder what's next.

Listen, i love the passion and the support/positivity.  But you seriously think O'Hoppe would have made the difference?  If anything, he was likely playing a little over his head and a come down was soon when the book got out on him.  Then you hope he could make the proper adjustments.  Regardless, you keep talkign injuries.  You do realize every team has injuries right?  Texas has lost a bunch of their top guys are periods.  IDK about Houston, but i'm guessing they have had injuries.  That's why the angels are not anything more than an average team -- lack of depth for when inevitable injuries occur.  The pitching staff has been pretty healthy for the year -- and they simply are not good enough....at least not good enough to win this division.  Or live in a dream world -- you do you

It is not only the direct effect of the injuries, but also the emotional damage caused by losing six players in just 2 or three days.

No coincidence the pitching totally tanked when all the injuries occurred. Injuries caused too much collective stress to the staff.

Without all the injuries this is a playoff team, but maybe not a division winner

[Revad]

59 minutes ago, Farmbuildingfan said:

It is not only the direct effect of the injuries, but also the emotional damage caused by losing six players in just 2 or three days.

No coincidence the pitching totally tanked when all the injuries occurred. Injuries caused too much collective stress to the staff.

Without all the injuries this is a playoff team, but maybe not a division winner

Yes.  Some injuries can be expected, but given an even outcome on position players we are definitely a playoff team.  Don’t forget that Rendon and Trout and now Ward are the middle of the lineup we expected at least 3/4 of the time.  Or that’s what I was thinking when I predicted 90 wins when smart respected voices were saying 86-88.

[Farmbuildingfan]

I predicted 75 wins and still do. I predicted injuries would cost them the playoffs; too bad I will likely be right.