Patrick Sandoval

[ten ocho recon scout]

Tried finding a thread on him but didnt see one. Missed the game tonight (working), but how did he look?

Ive had high hopes for this guy for awhile now....

If Ohtani is Ohtani, and Syndegaard is 80 percent of who he was, and Sandoval is a bonafide 3, this rotation is suddenly a lot better than I think a lot of people realize.

[Taylor]

Just now, cals said:

We were just discussing (OK I was pointing out) that he looks like he should be on Better Call Saul.  Agree or disagree?

This isn't him?

[ten ocho recon scout]

2 minutes ago, cals said:

We were just discussing (OK I was pointing out) that he looks like he should be on Better Call Saul.  Agree or disagree?

Dis and agree

 

(I havent seen the show, so I think both sides have a point)

[ten ocho recon scout]

Just now, Taylor said:

This isn't him?

That looks like Zelensky in junior college.

[T.G.]

14 minutes ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

Tried finding a thread on him but didnt see one. Missed the game tonight (working), but how did he look?

Like a freakin’ Hoss

[bloodbrother]

He's Johan Santana 2.0. That changeup is deadly

[Second Base]

Sandoval absolutely shoved tonight. And his development is awesome on so many levels. 

1. Local product. Always good. 

2. Farm product, which means he's young and cost controlled. 

3. They acquired him from the Astros, who thought they were selling him high when they got Maldonado for him. 

4. He's proof that the developmental team can actually have success. When the Angels acquired him, he sat 90-92, with an average slider and an above average change. Since then, he's reeled in his emotions and subsequently his mechanics, now sits 94-95, has a decent slider that he's learned to use as a backdoor offering, making it play for lefties and righties, and now has the best change up in baseball. 

5. And yes to whoever said it above. He's Johan Santana 2.0, is a front of the rotation starter and the Angels should consider locking him up very early.

[arch stanton]

Johan Santana was also a Houston farmhand who was Rule 5'd by the Marlins then traded to the Twins for somebody nobody has ever heard of

[ScottT]

Sandoval is the best kept secret that may not be a secret for long.  People shat on the Angels starting pitching all winter.   I always thought Ohtani, Syndergaard, and Sandoval was a good start to a rotation.  Maybe not amazing, but solid, at least.  Suarez pitched well last year, too, but I've been bullish on Sandoval for a while.  Lorenzen is looking good. 

This is a good squad.  And they can add on later.   

[ScottT]

Also, Griffin Canning has a career 96 ERA+.   Solid.  Still upside there.  

[ScottT]

And I like Detmers.  Might take a minute, but he's got the talent.  

[WicketMaiden]

5 hours ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

Tried finding a thread on him but didnt see one. Missed the game tonight (working), but how did he look?

Ive had high hopes for this guy for awhile now....

If Ohtani is Ohtani, and Syndegaard is 80 percent of who he was, and Sandoval is a bonafide 3, this rotation is suddenly a lot better than I think a lot of people realize.

Sandoval was lethal, totally on his game. His change-up put a couple of hitters on their knees, they couldn't get anywhere near it. His performance completely justified his stat-line. Very, very promising indeed.

Props to Rendon too, he was a beast with the glove last night, as was Trout with the bat. Fun times! 

[DMVol]

Eppler sucked at FA signings but he was very good at trades….Sandoval, Simmons….Maldonado from the Brewers for a AAAA catcher…

[Barf]

I wasn't expecting all that much from him going into this season tbh but am glad to say that he has pleasantly surprised me. Long may it continue.

[Justin]

I would say that if Sandoval continues to have a 1.000 WHIP and 0.00 ERA, he will be a solid contributor. 

Seriously, though, he has been fun to watch - as have most of the starters so far.

Maybe we don't need Ohtani-Syndergaard-Sandoval-Lorenzen to be the '98 Braves; maybe we just need them to not suck. That should be enough to have a winning record, which is something we have not seen for a long time. 

[Jay]

I've always liked Sandoval.

He's a gritty kind of pitcher that I can really appreciate.

 

[Jason]

8 hours ago, ScottT said:

Sandoval is the best kept secret that may not be a secret for long.  People shat on the Angels starting pitching all winter.   I always thought Ohtani, Syndergaard, and Sandoval was a good start to a rotation.  Maybe not amazing, but solid, at least.  Suarez pitched well last year, too, but I've been bullish on Sandoval for a while.  Lorenzen is looking good. 

This is a good squad.  And they can add on later.   

So far the rotation's performance has exceeded expectations and I think they can continue to pitch at a higher level 

[Taylor]

He's been awesome. I just hope the board cuts him some slack when he inevitably has a bad start.

[Angel Oracle]

Progress is always met with a little regression.   The important thing is the progress over the season.

Having more than one or two guys to rely on is a pleasant change from the past several years.

[Jason]

32 minutes ago, Taylor said:

He's been awesome. I just hope the board cuts him some slack when he inevitably has a bad start.

Everyone is allowed a bad start. They aren't allowed to have them on a regular basis though 

[Chuck]

 

[Jason]

2 minutes ago, cals said:

Wait.

Who are you and where is AO?

The grump AO shows up when its about 5 hours post nap and before his regular bedtime

[Angelsfan1984]

calling it now. Sandoval with a no hitter next time up.

[bloodbrother]

12 hours ago, ScottT said:

Sandoval is the best kept secret that may not be a secret for long.  People shat on the Angels starting pitching all winter.   I always thought Ohtani, Syndergaard, and Sandoval was a good start to a rotation.  Maybe not amazing, but solid, at least.  Suarez pitched well last year, too, but I've been bullish on Sandoval for a while.  Lorenzen is looking good. 

This is a good squad.  And they can add on later.   

Agreed. Upside wise, it's a very, very good trio of arms with #1 starter ability based off stuff alone. Only question is durability/health concerns, mainly the latter 2 with Syndergaard coming off TJS recovery and Sandoval missing the end of the season with his back injury.

[DCAngelsFan]

7 hours ago, WicketMaiden said:

Sandoval was lethal, totally on his game. His change-up put a couple of hitters on their knees, they couldn't get anywhere near it. His performance completely justified his stat-line. Very, very promising indeed.

Props to Rendon too, he was a beast with the glove last night, as was Trout with the bat. Fun times! 

Absolutely - there was no "fluke" in what he did - he spotted his fastball really well, and his slider and changeup were just nasty - I dunno *what* he threw to Reyes - some kind of cutting changeup - but the look on his face was priceless.

Got tired and his velocity dropped quite a bit - my only concern with *that* is that Maddon not leave him in too long - that's when you get hurt, when you're fatigued.  Let him build length naturally.