Considering the 2020 starting pitcher free agent class

[UndertheHalo]

 

*UPDATE* TORONTO BLUE JAYS SIGN RYU 80 MILLION 4 YEARS.

• Trevor Bauer (28 y/o)
• James Paxton (31 y/o)
• Robbie Ray (28 y/o)
• Jose Quintana (30 y/o)
• Marcus Stroman (28 y/o)
• Masahiro Tanaka (31 y/o)
• Jake Arrieta (33 y/o)

What do we think about this group ? 

Edited December 23, 2019 by UndertheHalo

[halonatic13]

Stroman would come to the Angels.  He's a fan boy of Trout.

[floplag]

i think we need to take a major step forward to eliminate the whole "chance to win" argument.   Made the same argument last year, got told i was crazy, and im sure i will  again, but if youre premier FA who finally reached his chance to determine his own fate, would you got to a team thats below 500 for the decade?
WE dropped the ball by punting last year, big time, it may have cost us any real shot at Cole... we MUST take a step in '20 or it wont matter want we want in the FA class, clearly money alone isint the only indicator of anything anymore. 

[ukyah]

4 minutes ago, floplag said:

i think we need to take a major step forward to eliminate the whole "chance to win" argument.   Made the same argument last year, got told i was crazy, and im sure i will  again, but if youre premier FA who finally reached his chance to determine his own fate, would you got to a team thats below 500 for the decade?
WE dropped the ball by punting last year, big time, it may have cost us any real shot at Cole... we MUST take a step in '20 or it wont matter want we want in the FA class, clearly money alone isint the only indicator of anything anymore. 

the only FA that i know took less was madbum. that's it. everybody else has taken the highest offer.

[mmc]

6 minutes ago, ukyah said:

the only FA that i know took less was madbum. that's it. everybody else has taken the highest offer.

White Sox offered the most for Wheeler

[ukyah]

4 minutes ago, mymerlincat said:

White Sox offered the most for Wheeler

ok, but i never saw that confirmed. there was one "source" in chicago who said that and it was never picked up by anybody else, as far as i ever saw, and their higher offer numbers were never reported either. 

it may be true, but i have serious doubts.

[mmc]

4 minutes ago, ukyah said:

ok, but i never saw that confirmed. there was one "source" in chicago who said that and it was never picked up by anybody else, as far as i ever saw, and their higher offer numbers were never reported either. 

it may be true, but i have serious doubts.

 

[Justin]

Ryu is the only free agent pitcher I was adamantly opposed to. I would much prefer they look to the future. But does it have to be 12 months? Won't there be pitchers available for trade in-season?

[Second Base]

I see a list of pitchers the Angels will lose the bidding on and frustrate the heck out of AW on. Arte will say he's "all in" and later learn that all in actually means we'll get a couple of 5th starters as a conciliatory prize.

[Second Base]

1 minute ago, SoPas Angel said:

Ryu is the only free agent pitcher I was adamantly opposed to. I would much prefer they look to the future. But does it have to be 12 months? Won't there be pitchers available for trade in-season?

The trade deadline is when prices are at their highest.

[mmc]

Sure we can look at them, but I don’t have any confidence they’ll actually sign one of them. 

[AngelsLakersFan]

If the price is right you gotta go with Ryu... who knows what that price is. I think it all comes down to how confident Eppler is in getting value out of the contract.

[greginpsca]

I hope to hell a few of the pitchers on the farm turn a corner this year, to help the starting staff.  Signing free agent pitchers have become way too expensive. And trading for them costs too much in prospects for the most part.

[ukyah]

1 hour ago, mymerlincat said:

fair enough. add wheeler to madbum.

 

[angelsnationtalk]

All I read was “waste another year of Trout in hopes for next year”

[stormngt]

2 hours ago, UndertheHalo said:

Ryu is the last premier FA pitcher left in the market as we all know.  A question worth asking is whether the Angels are better off pursuing him aggressively or looking to the future for their next big pitching acquisition.  Around this time next year there’s a decent chance that these pitchers will be available in free agency. 

• Trevor Bauer (28 y/o)
• James Paxton (31 y/o)
• Robbie Ray (28 y/o)
• Jose Quintana (30 y/o)
• Marcus Stroman (28 y/o)
• Masahiro Tanaka (31 y/o)
• Jake Arrieta (33 y/o)

so how would we feel about possibly being out on these guys if the Angels give Ryu a big contract or take on a substantial portion of David Prices deal ?? (disaster.  terrible.  do not do)  There is the chance that the Angels could sign Ryu and still be aggressive for a pitcher next offseaon, but I think that would be far from clear.  My concern with Ryu is his health.  When healthy he’s obviously a top of the rotation type, though not a true ace.  I think the health concerns are particularly valid in his case.  

Trout isn't 22.  The tireless liberal of "wasting trout's prime years" is going to be a self fulfilling prophecy soon. 

I dont mind passing on Ryu but we need to create a lockdown oen if that's the case 

[angelsnationtalk]

A lot can change in the year. For all we know Fletcher and Rengifo may become studs and force the issue with Simmons testing free agency. 

Simmons and Teheran alone will free up about $24M next year which is enough money to sign a good pitcher IN ADDITION to Ryu.