Trevor Rosenthal

[jgimondo]

I would like to see the Angels sign him to a minor league deal and see if he can recapture what he had. Any thoughts?

[Make Angels Great Again]

We haven't exactly had success this year with making former good pitchers become good again. What makes you think Rosenthal would be different?

[robblin17]

Sure, but for whatever reason, this very rarely, if ever, works for the Angels.

We need to stop making reclamation projects our key FA signings in the off-season. 

[Stradling]

Just now, robblin17 said:

Sure, but for whatever reason, this very rarely, if ever, works for the Angels.

We need to stop making reclamation projects our key FA signings in the off-season. 

Yea, pretty sure he wasn’t calling it a key FA signing, but rather a minor league deal.  

[robblin17]

4 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Yea, pretty sure he wasn’t calling it a key FA signing, but rather a minor league deal.  

I wasn't referring to Rosenthal specifically. I was referring to Harvey and others. 

[arch stanton]

He’s toast

[Blarg]

But it would be fun to have both a Rosenthal and Fletcher (@Jeff Fletcher )on the same team. It's like a sports writers softball league.

[Jay]

When I saw this I thought it might be about Ken Rosenthal's successful brother.

 

[Blarg]

More like nephew.

[Blarg]

Would be hilarious if he wore a bow tie with his uniform.

[failos]

How about signing a pitcher that isn't a reclamation project for once? Tired of these washed out players people here keep clamoring for.

[Angel Oracle]

1 minute ago, Blarg said:

Would be hilarious if he wore a bow tie with his uniform.

This dude agrees.

[Stradling]

5 minutes ago, failos said:

How about signing a pitcher that isn't a reclamation project for once? Tired of these washed out players people here keep clamoring for.

Well everyone who should be in the minors is up with the big club so we have openings in the minor leagues.  Might as well see if there is anything left.  

[mmc]

I'd sign David Hernandez, Greg Holland, Tony Sipp, or Bud Norris before Rosenthal.

[Blarg]

27 minutes ago, mymerlincat said:

I'd sign David Hernandez, Greg Holland, Tony Sipp, or Bud Norris before Rosenthal.

We had Hernandez in 2017, (turning 35) since then his arm fell off.

Holland has been nothing special for Arizona, is turning 34 and will demand a veteran salary. Expect regression.

Tony Will is a clone of Holland and 2 years older. Another candidate for regression to Hernandez numbers. 

Norris will be 34, another just average career that saw a small bump in ERA moving to the NL. Another guy that has had his best years and will probably decline. 

All of the guys you listed are going to be $3+ million to sign for a one year stopgap reliever. 

Rosenthal is possibly toast at age 29. So I would be hesitant to sign him to anything more than a minor league contract, if that. It requires the Nationals to pay the buyout to give him free agent status, which they probably will.

But of the list you gave, I wouldn't bother with any of them.

 

[failos]

3 hours ago, Stradling said:

Well everyone who should be in the minors is up with the big club so we have openings in the minor leagues.  Might as well see if there is anything left.  

If the team acquired decent pitching they wouldn’t need to bring underdeveloped prospects into the bigs

[PattyD22]

12 minutes ago, failos said:

If the team acquired decent pitching they wouldn’t need to bring underdeveloped prospects into the bigs

Decent pitchers don’t get hurt and go on the IL?  Decent pitchers don’t tragically pass away?

While I understand your frustration, your basis is off.

[Docwaukee]

21 minutes ago, failos said:

If the team acquired decent pitching they wouldn’t need to bring underdeveloped prospects into the bigs

what's your basis for determining that they're not ready?  

a lack of instant major league success?  

[TroutAdell]

8 hours ago, failos said:

How about signing a pitcher that isn't a reclamation project for once? Tired of these washed out players people here keep clamoring for.

Anyone who is available now is a reclamation project. They have to either claimed off waivers or signed after being released. Also, pitching in the PCL is no recipe for success.  

[Stradling]

Yankees signed him to a minor league deal.  

[failos]

On 8/12/2019 at 5:07 PM, Dochalo said:

what's your basis for determining that they're not ready?  

a lack of instant major league success?  

My basis? Look at Suarez. These guys are too young to be relied upon.

[jgimondo]

3 hours ago, Stradling said:

Yankees signed him to a minor league deal.  

Too bad , thought we could do the same .

[disarcina]

Yankees scooped up Rosenthal?

Rosenthal is from St. Louis was a young phenom fireballer who was signed by the Cardinals.

Perhaps as part of the SI curse, SI did a story on Rosenthal as he was up and coming. Was the Cards closer and lights out for about two seasons but then like most fireballers, it seems, he blew out his arm - I think he had Tommy John surgery and then struggled back with the Cards,  They let him walk and Washington signed him.

Rosenthal was part of the Nats' pen first part of this season, wasn't the closer - sort of a pre-set up / set up guy,  His final appearance with the Nats he was asked to hold a lead, gave up five runs in less than an inning and that evening after the game, Washington DFA'd him. 

I think he's done at 29 as an earlier post opines as well.

But Yanks have the money so they take a flyer on him -- it's probably another rehab period of time for him -- maybe he comes out of it down the road being able to be an effective pen guy (not necessarily a closer) for an MLB team, perhaps the Yankees...

[Troll Daddy]

He was definitely worth signing to a minor league deal. These are the type of reclamation projects that you sign imo. From what I read he still has a plus fastball ... has control issues. 

[Docwaukee]

On 8/20/2019 at 8:07 AM, failos said:

My basis? Look at Suarez. These guys are too young to be relied upon.

at what point do they come up then?  He needs the experience to get better.  

The call up was appropriate.  The results don't change that.