Expansion and Realignment

[Puget Sound Angel]

Yeah but the Mariners will b!tch like hell over this and make the commissioner's life miserable.

[ukyah]

14 minutes ago, Puget Sound Angel said:

Yeah but the Mariners will b!tch like hell over this and make the commissioner's life miserable.

yeah, but it's the mariners. so, who cares. it'd be like the padres complaining about a team in tijuana. we here you, but nobody cares.

[tdawg87]

Anything that inconveniences Dipoto in any way has my full support.

[Tank]

On 10/19/2017 at 7:28 PM, AngelsLakersFan said:

The pitcher vs DH debate is too polarizing. It would be nice if there was a compromise solution....

make the DH optional for NL teams. they can use it if they want but aren't required to.

[AngelsLakersFan]

1 minute ago, Tank said:

make the DH optional for NL teams. they can use it if they want but aren't required to.

isn't that the rule in the AL?

[Tank]

On 10/21/2017 at 6:53 PM, AngelsLakersFan said:

Vegas would need a different business model... the ballpark would need to be a casino, with slot machines instead of seats, poker tables instead of dinner tables, etc.

i like it. if i can't play a few hands of texas hold 'em while eating nachos on the third deck during a four-run rally by the halos, why even bother getting out of bed in the morning?

let's make this happen, ALF.

[Tank]

4 minutes ago, AngelsLakersFan said:

isn't that the rule in the AL?

i think so. just make it a universal rule throughout MLB.

[Season Over]

I still like the idea of the teams closest to each other being in opposite leagues (Angels/Dodgers, Mets/Yankees, etc.)  It's why the two Texas teams being in the AL bothers me so much. Also the fact that we play them both 40 times a year and get murdered.

 

 

[Puget Sound Angel]

Why would baseball expand? You already have two failing teams in need of new stadiums in Oakland and Tampa Bay?

[disarcina]

Puget Sound Angel makes best comment of the thread that makes the most sense:

"Why would baseball expand? You already have two failing teams in need of new stadiums? (Oakland and Tampa Bay).

Absolutely.

Move Oakland to Las Vegas.

Move Tampa Bay to Charlotte

done.

Let Portland keep its Single A team in the burbs and let Seattle keep its AAA team called the Mariners.

Perfect.

 

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

1 hour ago, disarcina said:

Puget Sound Angel makes best comment of the thread that makes the most sense:

"Why would baseball expand? You already have two failing teams in need of new stadiums? (Oakland and Tampa Bay).

Absolutely.

Move Oakland to Las Vegas.

Move Tampa Bay to Charlotte

done.

Let Portland keep its Single A team in the burbs and let Seattle keep its AAA team called the Mariners.

Perfect.

 

The A's aren't going to Las Vegas, count on it. They're not going to follow the Raiders...

[disarcina]

expansion - "If I were MLB, I would pick Las Vegas over Portland"

Portland may have more full time residents/ population -- Las Vegas is a national/ international city that will draw fans from all over the country/ world.

also, I take one look at the empty seats at Safeco Field this year (starting in June/ July) and again, Las V

[Blarg]

On 10/22/2017 at 12:56 PM, Puget Sound Angel said:

Yeah but the Mariners will b!tch like hell over this and make the commissioner's life miserable.

Hah. Like the commissioner's office would give a crap. Here would be the response, play better bitches and you might get some respect.

[disarcina]

21 hours ago, Ace-Of-Diamonds said:

The A's aren't going to Las Vegas, count on it. They're not going to follow the Raiders...

Well - perhaps not - and in that event ten years from now they'll still be playing at the Oakland Coliseum with Davis Mountain ruining the baseball atmosphere even though the Raiders are long gone..........MLB and SF Giants won't let them move to San Jose, a local location for them in the South Bay -- the SF Giants have moved their AAA team to Sacramento a few years ago, I am somewhat sure - just to block the A's from going there -- the Fresno area had built a great ballpark and were very loyal Giants fans over many years...so no Vegas? Where else can the A's go?  Is this that Portland vs. Vegas issue again.........see prior posts........Vegas every time given that choice.

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

5 hours ago, disarcina said:

Well - perhaps not - and in that event ten years from now they'll still be playing at the Oakland Coliseum with Davis Mountain ruining the baseball atmosphere even though the Raiders are long gone..........MLB and SF Giants won't let them move to San Jose, a local location for them in the South Bay -- the SF Giants have moved their AAA team to Sacramento a few years ago, I am somewhat sure - just to block the A's from going there -- the Fresno area had built a great ballpark and were very loyal Giants fans over many years...so no Vegas? Where else can the A's go?  Is this that Portland vs. Vegas issue again.........see prior posts........Vegas every time given that choice.

They have already picked a spot in Oakland and are in the process of doing the environment impact study. The funding has been approved and are supposed to be ready to play in about 3 or 4 years if I remember correctly.

[disarcina]

On 10/25/2017 at 2:18 AM, Ace-Of-Diamonds said:

hey have already picked a spot in Oakland and are in the process of doing the environment impact study. The funding has been approved and are supposed to be ready to play in about 3 or 4 years if I remember correctly.

am aware of this -- they previously had a ballpark location picked out (in Fremont, if I remember right) and were ready to go when they ran into opposition to neighborhood groups and there was no support of any kind from the State to fund the freeway infrastructure modifications required (over-pass and new off ramps). So it was a 'no go' - of course the City of Oakland and Alameda County along with the Alameda Coliseum Board (made up of a near non-governable, logistical and practical nightmare of public entities who can't agree on  much of anything other than to have some other entity- other than theirs and the Coliseum Board - fund any improvements).  3 to 4 years from now is the anticipated 'ready' date ? I 'll stick with 'ten years from now, no ground will have been broken and A's still playing in Oakland Coliseum with views of the Oakland hills being blocked by Davis Mountain's empty seats covered up by a tarp of some kind")

[Vegas Halo Fan]

We could have a park finished before Oakland stopped arguing over where theirs would be built. We would even let them bring Tarpy.

[disarcina]

Vegas Halos Fan -- as you know the Las Vegas Convention and Visitors Bureau is very aggressive and active in promoting expansion of Vegas economic opportunities.......they should be out there letting MLB and every team even hinting at re-location know that the AAA ballpark being built there is being built in way where it can easily be converted to a stadium to meet MLB requirements with a significant portion of the needed park and related area infrastructure in place (there's always a freeway project of some kind under going construction in Las Vegas it seems).

The one aspect I don't know is how the Convention bureau folks are reacting to a non-downtown, non inside the actual City limits of Las Vegas location for the AAA ballpark. If it's out near Summerlin, I am assuming it's either under Clark County jurisdiction or perhaps may have been annexed into the city of Summerlin or perhaps the City of Las Vegas.  Con-Vis there seems to be downtown / strip oriented as, I think, it's the TOT (transient occupancy tax) from the large hotels there that primarily fund Con-Vis.

[Vegas Halo Fan]

I don't know that they aren't, just that there is no open talk about it.

There isn't a City of Summerlin. It's just one of the best known developments in the city.

[Ohtaniland]

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

On 10/29/2017 at 8:17 PM, disarcina said:

am aware of this -- they previously had a ballpark location picked out (in Fremont, if I remember right) and were ready to go when they ran into opposition to neighborhood groups and there was no support of any kind from the State to fund the freeway infrastructure modifications required (over-pass and new off ramps).

The Giants shut down the San Jose move. The state won't need to build a freeway off ramp in Oakland and it's within walking distance from BART.

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

On 10/29/2017 at 8:40 PM, disarcina said:

..they should be out there letting MLB and every team even hinting at re-location know that the AAA ballpark being built there is being built in way where it can easily be converted to a stadium to meet MLB requirements with a significant portion of the needed park and related area infrastructure in place (there's always a freeway project of some kind under going construction in Las Vegas it seems).

If the AAA stadium can't be made into a stadium with a retractable roof, easily it will not be MLB ready. Texas is going to abandon their relatively new stadium and build a new stadium with a retractable roof.

[Redondo]

5 hours ago, Calzone said:

I think taking out Seattle and replacing them with the Diamondbacks makes more sense. Let Seattle be in a division with Colorado, where ever they end up.

Other than that I like this set up.

[Blarg]

That would make no sense, Seattle is the west coast. 

[Ohtaniland]

1 hour ago, Redondo said:

I think taking out Seattle and replacing them with the Diamondbacks makes more sense. Let Seattle be in a division with Colorado, where ever they end up.

Other than that I like this set up.

Well this is a true western division. It also forces a true battle for the Los Angeles market.