$272mm

[nate]

OUCH

 

Jeff Passan 

Albert Pujols has seven years, $189M left on his deal. Josh Hamilton has three years, $83M. Pujols is in constant pain. Hamilton is a ghost

 

Edited October 4, 2014 by nate

[Taylor]

What is that quoted from?

[nate]

Jeff Passan, fixed.  Thought I copied the whole thing.

[Ohtaniland]

Albert will be 35 next season and Josh Hamilton will be 34.

 

Arte paid a lot of money for iron pyrite.

[Stradling]

Have you ever bought a used car and it went to shit and you were out a few bucks? That's basically the same impact this has on Arte. It only affects his ego and our viewing pleasure.

[Ohtaniland]

Have you ever bought a used car and it went to shit and you were out a few bucks? That's basically the same impact this has on Arte. It only affects his ego and our viewing pleasure.

Arte should have used Carfax.com

He would have found out about the vehicle history and hidden problems.

[Stradling]

Yep. Past results don't guarantee future results.

[fan_since79]

Arte's worth a billion dollars and the team is worth five times what he paid for it in CASH eleven years ago.

 

"No sense of urgency" starts at the top and filters down.

[tomsred]

Arte's worth a billion dollars and the team is worth five times what he paid for it in CASH eleven years ago.

 

"No sense of urgency" starts at the top and filters down.

 

Can these type of posts get any worse?

[Stradling]

Can these type of posts get any worse?

Nope. I'm sure Arte couldn't care less about winning a championship. /sarcasm

These type of posts are from people who need to place blame. They ignore the fact that Arte has more money than he and most generations of his family will ever be able to spend. They ignore that most great business men are competitive. They ignore that he is a baseball fan himself. If you want to blame Arte blame him for trying to hard or spending too much money on players that aren't producing. To call him complacent is pretty stupid, and that's being kind.

[HeavenlyHalos]

Arte's worth a billion dollars and the team is worth five times what he paid for it in CASH eleven years ago.

 

"No sense of urgency" starts at the top and filters down.

 

Wait, so you are saying an owner that spent over $350 million on two players doesn't have a sense of urgency to win a championship? Question his ability to accurately predict a future player's success if you'd like, but I'm pretty sure he has spent such a sh*t ton of money to win a championship ASAP. It hasn't worked, but I certainly feel he has an urgent desire to win a World Series.

[Jay]

Arte has spent money on the team that's for sure.  If you want some examples of "no sense of urgency" I think you should look in the dugout.

[Hollyw00d]

Albert's checking his stats as we speak

[mancini79]

Such a fresh new topic that hasn't already been discused.

[Hollyw00d]

Get used to it, because we have to deal with seven more years of it.

[DMVol]

Have you ever bought a used car and it went to shit and you were out a few bucks? That's basically the same impact this has on Arte. It only affects his ego and our viewing pleasure.

Old argument, not valid....We haven't spent a lot of money on free agents since Hamilton...there is a reason...the luxury tax seems to matter to Arte.

[Jay]

Get used to it, because we have to deal with seven more years of it.

 

and 4 months until the start of spring training

[Guest]

Arte has spent money on the team that's for sure.  If you want some examples of "no sense of urgency" I think you should look in the dugout.

[Ohtaniland]

Arte is doing fine thank you.

 

[tomsred]

Get used to it, because we have to deal with seven more years of it.

 

What's that, watching Arte pay them, or continuing to discuss the same old tired topic, LOL.

[Angelsjunky]

So here's the thing. Even the Angels must have realized they were poor value contracts that would end up looking bad in a few years. In both cases, but especially Pujols, the performance was expected in the first half of the contract. In other words these guys should be peaking now relative to their contracts.

But the problem is that both fell through the roof and have come nowhere near performing even to the most pessimistic expectations. What is concerning, aside from the simple reality of being saddled with two terrible contracts (which even to Arte are fat worse than used car lemon), is that the Angels didn't scout this. I mean, didn't they think twice when both were let go so easily by their respective teams?

We can only hope the Angels learned their lesson.

[Hollyw00d]

I believe they did scout it. I believe this organization knew Hamilton was a gigantic liability.

Arte went rogue.

[CAAngelsLifer]

Yeah, Arte Moreno is the WORST. He clearly doesn't care about the fans or the team- doing terrible things like investing in high end free agents, signing our young talent to longer deals so they stay with the franchise and trying to upgrade the stadium.

I wish we had a great owner like Rockies' Dick Monfort who tells his fans, "you don't deserve a franchise." and "if you don't like it, don't come to games." 

Or someone like the late owner of the Mariners who never once watched a game in person and never even stepped foot in Safeco. 

[Ohtaniland]

So here's the thing. Even the Angels must have realized they were poor value contracts that would end up looking bad in a few years. In both cases, but especially Pujols, the performance was expected in the first half of the contract. In other words these guys should be peaking now relative to their contracts.

But the problem is that both fell through the roof and have come nowhere near performing even to the most pessimistic expectations. What is concerning, aside from the simple reality of being saddled with two terrible contracts (which even to Arte are fat worse than used car lemon), is that the Angels didn't scout this. I mean, didn't they think twice when both were let go so easily by their respective teams?

We can only hope the Angels learned their lesson.

 

 

You can bet that Arte is pissed about all this. You have to believe that Arte was counting on winning big this post season to help gain more leverage with his land negotiations.

When you have home advantage and your starting lineups salary adds up to $87 Million vs your opponents $43 Million starting lineup it has to hurt not to win.

Hitting .141 in the post season is like kicking Arte in the nuts.

[Bruce Nye]

Arte's request was to make the playoffs.  The team had a magical season - most runs scored in MLB.  Best record also.

 

Arte pissed?  Nope - disappointed to be sure wondering like some of the adults here - what happened to the offense?