Angels ranked as the 9th most valuable MLB team in 2022

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[Taylor]

I wonder how many scouts teams 1-8 have.

[tdawg87]

Only the Phillies have a longer playoff drought from that top 10.

[UndertheHalo]

1 hour ago, tdawg87 said:

Only the Phillies have a longer playoff drought from that top 10.

That’s pretty funny tbh.  Haha. 

[UndertheHalo]

Also very funny.  The Marlins have somehow managed to be worth less money then what that group paid for them.  I don’t really believe that they’d actually lose money if they tried to sell but it’s still pretty funny to think about what kind of fuck ups they’d have to be to lose money on an MLB franchise. 

[Taylor]

11 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

Also very funny.  The Marlins have somehow managed to be worth less money then what that group paid for them.  I don’t really believe that they’d actually lose money if they tried to sell but it’s still pretty funny to think about what kind of fuck ups they’d have to be to lose money on an MLB franchise. 

Some folks in the CBA thread were claiming that owning an MLB franchise doesn't generate a lot of money.

[UndertheHalo]

Just now, Taylor said:

Some folks in the CBA thread were claiming that owning an MLB franchise doesn't generate a lot of money.

Ya.  I don’t really want to revisit all that.  

[Taylor]

21 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

Ya.  I don’t really want to revisit all that.  

[ScottT]

Payroll is usually  near there, too.

[Angelsjunky]

The Rays are the most bad-ass franchise in the game. Always a low payroll, low value, and generally very good teams with lots of young talent developing.

[Taylor]

6 hours ago, Angelsjunky said:

The Rays are the most bad-ass franchise in the game. Always a low payroll, low value, and generally very good teams with lots of young talent developing.

This is America. Bad-ass is all about building personal wealth with the least effort possible.

[Stradling]

20 minutes ago, Taylor said:

This is America. Bad-ass is all about building personal wealth with the least effort possible.

Then you suck at being American (obligatory)

[Taylor]

2 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Then you suck at being American (obligatory)

Yeah, probably. Sorry, 'Merica.

[Angelsjunky]

22 minutes ago, Taylor said:

This is America. Bad-ass is all about building personal wealth with the least effort possible.

I'm only talking about return on investment, in terms of "wins per dollar spent." In that regard, the Rays are in a class all to themselves in badassery.

 

[UndertheHalo]

10 hours ago, Angelsjunky said:

The Rays are the most bad-ass franchise in the game. Always a low payroll, low value, and generally very good teams with lots of young talent developing.

I mean.  Mostly they’re bad.  They’re in the midst of a good run. 

[stormngt]

14 hours ago, Taylor said:

Some folks in the CBA thread were claiming that owning an MLB franchise doesn't generate a lot of money.

Appreciation of property is not liquid cash.  You don't get access to the money until you sell.

[ukyah]

41 minutes ago, stormngt said:

Appreciation of property is not liquid cash.  You don't get access to the money until you sell.

that's not true. people pull money out of investments in a myriad of ways all the time. mlb is funneling cash out of these franchises and then claiming small profits or even losses. that's the primary reasons why they refuse to open their books, they know that the subterfuge can't hold up to investigative scrutiny.

but, alas,  i've been drawn into a conversation i don't want to be a part of again.

[Taylor]

3 hours ago, stormngt said:

Appreciation of property is not liquid cash.  You don't get access to the money until you sell.

Then how did Arte pay for his yacht?

[AngelsLakersFan]

28 minutes ago, Taylor said:

Then how did Arte pay for his yacht?

He pawned his Rolex.

[ukyah]

42 minutes ago, AngelsLakersFan said:

He pawned his Rolex.

to a pawn shop that he owns.

[Angelsjunky]

4 hours ago, UndertheHalo said:

I mean.  Mostly they’re bad.  They’re in the midst of a good run. 

They've reached the postseason in each of the last three seasons, and seven of the last fourteen. Of those 14, 9 of them were either playoffs or 90-win seasons. I'd say that's pretty great for one of the lowest payrolls in baseball, unless your standards are Dodgers/Yankees/Red Sox/Astros or bust - all franchises that spend a lot more money.

[stormngt]

3 hours ago, Taylor said:

Then how did Arte pay for his yacht?

He made money elsewhere.  Just don't think owning a company worth 2 billion dollars means the owners has 2 billion cash on hand.

[Lazorko Saves]

4 hours ago, stormngt said:

He made money elsewhere.  Just don't think owning a company worth 2 billion dollars means the owners has 2 billion cash on hand.

Taylor thinks Arte was some upper-middle-class schmo until he lucked into somehow buying an MLB franchise on leverage, and has now gotten fantastically wealthy merely from owning the team.

He also thinks the Braves 4% profit margin in the year that they won a World Series is an "obscene" profit.

[Taylor]

8 hours ago, Lazorko Saves said:

Taylor thinks Arte was some upper-middle-class schmo until he lucked into somehow buying an MLB franchise on leverage, and has now gotten fantastically wealthy merely from owning the team.

He also thinks the Braves 4% profit margin in the year that they won a World Series is an "obscene" profit.

[Blarg]

I hope Taylor is never so financially successful the self loathing destroys him.