Letter allegedly showing MLB hid Yankees sign-stealing to be released within the week

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[jsnpritchett]

[Taylor]

I'll LOL if the Yankees were doing the same thing as the Astros and Red Sox but weren't punished.

[floplag]

And nothing will happen, MLB didnt have the sand to punish the Astros they certainly wont the darling Yankees. 

[Slegnaac]

Who knew and when did they know?

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[AngelsLakersFan]

6 hours ago, Taylor said:

I'll LOL if the Yankees were doing the same thing as the Astros and Red Sox but weren't punished.

The Astros weren't punished either.

 

LOL

[Taylor]

56 minutes ago, AngelsLakersFan said:

The Astros weren't punished either.

 

LOL

Good point.

[HanfordGuy]

[Docwaukee]

I thought you were only allowed to help other teams cheat.  

[UndertheHalo]

I sort of feel like you’re pretty hopeless if stuff like this is still able to surprise you.  My presumption is that all the teams try and get away with whatever they can.  It’s probably always been like that.  Whatever.  That’s baseball.  We love it folks. 

Edited March 22, 2022 by UndertheHalo

[eligrba]

12 hours ago, UndertheHalo said:

I sort of feel like you’re pretty hopeless if stuff like this is still able to surprise you.  My presumption is that all the teams try and get away with whatever they can.  It’s probably always been like that.  Whatever.  That’s baseball.  We love it folks. 

I agree except when MLB treats one team differently than all of the others.  MLB seems to prefer to vigorously protect the Yankees rather than an innocent victim like Trevor Bauer.  Just shameful.

How did I do, @cals

[UndertheHalo]

1 hour ago, eligrba said:

I agree except when MLB treats one team differently than all of the others.  MLB seems to prefer to vigorously protect the Yankees rather than an innocent victim like Trevor Bauer.  Just shameful.

How did I do, @cals

So true brother 

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[Taylor]

If they have nothing to hide, why are they trying to keep it from being released?

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[Pancake Bear]

 

lol.

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[ukyah]

On 3/21/2022 at 9:24 PM, UndertheHalo said:

I sort of feel like you’re pretty hopeless if stuff like this is still able to surprise you.  My presumption is that all the teams try and get away with whatever they can.  It’s probably always been like that.  Whatever.  That’s baseball.  We love it folks. 

not dogging you, but that's an extremely defeatist attitude. i don't feel that because some teams cheat, then all teams cheat, especially to the degree that we've seen already with the red sox and astros. we already knew about the yankees whispers, which is why this has come about. secrets don't stay buried. let's be clear, stealing signs, etc. is perfectly legal. it's the use of cameras and other cheating devices that is at issue.

i think throwing your hands up into the air and saying, "cheating doesn't matter because i assume everybody is doing it." is the real hopeless attitude. MLB should hold the individual franchises to a standard of fair play, and the fans should hold MLB to that same standard.

[UndertheHalo]

45 minutes ago, ukyah said:

not dogging you, but that's an extremely defeatist attitude. i don't feel that because some teams cheat, then all teams cheat, especially to the degree that we've seen already with the red sox and astros. we already knew about the yankees whispers, which is why this has come about. secrets don't stay buried. let's be clear, stealing signs, etc. is perfectly legal. it's the use of cameras and other cheating devices that is at issue.

i think throwing your hands up into the air and saying, "cheating doesn't matter because i assume everybody is doing it." is the real hopeless attitude. MLB should hold the individual franchises to a standard of fair play, and the fans should hold MLB to that same standard.

I mean the history of baseball is a shit load of figuring out ways to get one over.  It is what it is.  Are there varying degrees of severity ?  sure.  

Edited April 2, 2022 by UndertheHalo

[UndertheHalo]

Also, I’m not saying that there shouldn’t be consequences if someone gets caught 

[Lou]

52 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

I mean the history of baseball is a shit load of figuring out ways to get one over.  It is what it is.  Are there varying degrees of severity ?  sure.  

But teams are doing things that are specifically against the rules laid out by MLB. This isn't about trying to get one over, which sounds fairly innocent. This is outright cheating. 

[UndertheHalo]

2 minutes ago, Lou said:

But teams are doing things that are specifically against the rules laid out by MLB. This isn't about trying to get one over, which sounds fairly innocent. This is outright cheating. 

Like I said, if they get caught there should be consequences.  I didn’t make a judgement on whether it’s good or bad.  Obviously I think it’s bad to break the rules and cheat. I said that based on what I’ve seen over my life as a baseball fan and also what i know about the history of baseball my presumption is varying degrees of cheating is pretty wide spread and because of that I’m not surprised by these stories. 

[Lou]

1 minute ago, UndertheHalo said:

Like I said, if they get caught there should be consequences.  I didn’t make a judgement on whether it’s good or bad.  Obviously I think it’s bad to break the rules and cheat. I said that based on what I’ve seen over my life as a baseball fan and also what i know about the history of baseball my presumption is varying degrees of cheating is pretty wide spread and because of that I’m not surprised by these stories. 

When have you seen teams blatantly break MLB rules? 

[Lou]

On 3/21/2022 at 9:24 PM, UndertheHalo said:

I sort of feel like you’re pretty hopeless if stuff like this is still able to surprise you.  My presumption is that all the teams try and get away with whatever they can.  It’s probably always been like that.  Whatever.  That’s baseball.  We love it folks. 

Incorrect. We don't love cheaters in baseball.