Hamilton and Pujols

[OregonLAA]

Are ruining this season all by themselves. If they were doing what they should be, we would be doing just fine. .200 and .240 aren't going to get it done. Most of the home runs are solo shots and it really just takes the life out of this team. I dislike them a million times more than I dislike Blanton.

[Ohtaniland]

Pujols, Hamilton and Blanton. These are Jerry's Kids!

[Taylor]

You have to wonder how much it drains on these guys to be playing so poorly. I'd like to think they are embarrassed, but their demeanor gives the impression that they don't really care. It's so dang frustrating.

[70runner]

Lets see.  You already have more money than you can spend.  The guaranteed, long term 7 figure paycheck arrives each month on time, whether you hit or not.  Turn the page says the manager with his own huge long term contract, move on to the next paycheck.   Fret about losing a few baseball games?  Not so much.

[Docwaukee]

this and the next two seasons success were and will be contingent on this pair hitting the baseball.  After 2015 they might scrap it, but be prepared to live and die by these two for at least two more years after this one. 

[Troutipoo27]

Pujols, Hamilton and Blanton. These are Jerry's Kids!

the rich spoiled twins (pujols and Hamilton) and the fat kid who always walks around behind weaver and weaver gets really annoyed at(Blanton)

[Angelsjunky]

As frustrated as I am with their performances, I think its ridiculous to think that Josh and Albert aren't upset about their performances. These guys live and breathe baseball - of course they want to succeed and of course they're frustrated. But do we need to say that on national TV? Do we need to see them fall to their knees and ask for forgiveness?

[EDinTUSTIN]

As frustrated as I am with their performances, I think its ridiculous to think that Josh and Albert aren't upset about their performances. These guys live and breathe baseball - of course they want to succeed and of course they're frustrated. But do we need to say that on national TV? Do we need to see them fall to their knees and ask for forgiveness?

yes! better yet, Albert should make good on his proclamation that if he isn't performing up to standard that he would opt out.

[russell2626]

Eighth of a Billion dollars doesn't get you what it used to.

 

.216/9HR/20RBI/65K's thru 64 games

 

sheeeeeesh

 

 

[The God of Runs]

20 RBIs $1.2 million per RBI

[wopphil]

These two are, IMO, the most blameworthy of this horrible season. They are being paid to be difference makers, and yet they aren't even playing like replacement players.

[Angel Oracle]

I'm still waiting for Pujols to care about his team, and DL himself for the good of it.

[yk9001]

As frustrated as I am with their performances, I think its ridiculous to think that Josh and Albert aren't upset about their performances. These guys live and breathe baseball - of course they want to succeed and of course they're frustrated.

 

F*ck this.  I read this sentiment and hear it on Angels Pravda Radio 830am.  And then I watch the last at bat of the game last night.  Hamilton does not give a sh*t.  At all.

[gotbeer]

this and the next two seasons success were and will be contingent on this pair hitting the baseball.  After 2015 they might scrap it, but be prepared to live and die by these two for at least two more years after this one. 

 

 

Yup, we need these two to perform.  To put it all in perspective at how the Angels are all in right now.

 

2013, our payroll is at $137 million with the current group of people.

In 2014, our payroll, while losing Vargas and Downs, so a starter and reliever.  Our salary is already committed at $144 million.  And this does not even take into account significant raises that Bourjos, Trumbo, and Frieri will be getting in their first year or arbitration.  

In 2015, our payroll is at $129 million with Trout hitting arb for the first year.  

2016, our payroll is at $120 million.  

 

These number are if we make zero moves!  All in.    

[thebloob]

Pujols will never shut himself down.  He knows that he still is getting that random home run despite playing at a fraction of his career numbers.  He has a more important goal than team success, the home run title.  Losing half a year costs hime probably 10-15 to his total. 

[Angel Oracle]

Sadly enough, that does seem to be the case.

He ain't much better than Tony Conigliaro was in 1971, when he retired in mid-season at age 25.

[stormngt]

Are ruining this season all by themselves. If they were doing what they should be, we would be doing just fine. .200 and .240 aren't going to get it done. Most of the home runs are solo shots and it really just takes the life out of this team. I dislike them a million times more than I dislike Blanton.

your right.  we would be right in the race if they produce anywhere near expectations

[stormngt]

Lets see.  You already have more money than you can spend.  The guaranteed, long term 7 figure paycheck arrives each month on time, whether you hit or not.  Turn the page says the manager with his own huge long term contract, move on to the next paycheck.   Fret about losing a few baseball games?  Not so much.ut a 

you guys have no idea how athletes hate to lose.  They don't reach their level of success without a great competitive drive.  Just because they are not showing their frustration in their public behavior.

[Reveille1984]

Even if these guys were playing up to career averages, we'd still be pretty far out of the race.  Hamilton has been around a 4 WAR player the past couple seasons, and Pujols at his best is probably a 5-6 WAR player now.  Given those reference points, we'd have maybe 3-4 more wins at this stage in the season if they were playing well.  So instead of 27-37 we'd be 30-34 or something, awesome!

 

As terrible as these guys have been, there are lots of underperforming/injured players not living up to their contracts.

[yk9001]

you guys have no idea how athletes hate to lose.  They don't reach their level of success without a great competitive drive.  Just because they are not showing their frustration in their public behavior.

I'm lost.  Is this troll material, actual sarcasm, or do you really think that?

[Amazing Larry]

F*ck this.  I read this sentiment and hear it on Angels Pravda Radio 830am.  And then I watch the last at bat of the game last night.  Hamilton does not give a sh*t.  At all.

LOL at Angels Pravda Radio 830am. That's exactly what it is.

[Jay]

So the goal is to hide your fierce competitive spirit and commitment to winning.  Got it.

[WallyWorld]

Even if these guys were playing up to career averages, we'd still be pretty far out of the race.  Hamilton has been around a 4 WAR player the past couple seasons, and Pujols at his best is probably a 5-6 WAR player now.  Given those reference points, we'd have maybe 3-4 more wins at this stage in the season if they were playing well.  So instead of 27-37 we'd be 30-34 or something, awesome!

 

As terrible as these guys have been, there are lots of underperforming/injured players not living up to their contracts.

 

I appreciate SABRmetrics, but it's just not that black and white.  If they were performing at career levels, it would change how the players around them are pitched to, a crucial win here or there changes the momentum of the season . . .  and so on.  It's not nearly as simple as adding their WAR to our win total.

[yk9001]

I appreciate SABRmetrics, but it's just not that black and white.  If they were performing at career levels, it would change how the players around them are pitched to, a crucial win here or there changes the momentum of the season . . .  and so on.  It's not nearly as simple as adding their WAR to our win total.

 

Totally agree with this.  It is no where near just adding WAR wins.

[Bruce Nye]

No one can tell me that Hamilton gives a shit after that final at bat last night.

 

This guy is a bum.  It would not surprise me to learn he is a clubhouse cancer.  Guys are stuck in SLC or riding pine because of him.