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Grayson Long, former Angels top prospect traded for Upton, has retired due to injury.


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15 hours ago, Inside Pitch said:

Thoracic outlet syndrome....   Sad.

Exactly what ended it for me. It just wasn't diagnosed until 15 years later. After about 20 or so throws i couldn't feel or lift my arm and my shoulder would swell up like crazy. All I did was get cortisone shots in my shoulder every few months to stop the pain and inflammation. There is surgery for it, if that's the route he wanted to go.

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2 hours ago, Jeremiah said:

Same thing Matt Harvey had been ailed by, IIRC. Same with Markelle Fultz in the NBA.

What exactly is that, @Angelsfan1984?

The little triangular area under your collar bone, chest and shoulder. Think of that like the opening of a pipe. Inside are wires (veins and ligaments), the pipe opening gets smaller and smaller with motion and increased body mass like working out or overhead motions such as throwing a baseball. That causes pain at the pressure point and numbness and tingling down to your fingers. Its like having a dead arm. Cortizone shots reduce inflammation which can open the canal enough to get blood flow, but the opening itself can only be fixed with Physical therapy which fixes posture to keep the opening as wide as possible at all times or surgery which places an object inside to keep it open and blood flowing. Its extremely painful and you can forget throwing a baseball let alone being a human without pain doing day to day activities.

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28 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Is this what Brandon Ingram has?

Nope, he had a structural problem that caused blood clots which they successfully corrected. The only reason I keep track of all these athlete's shoulder problems is I've been rehabbing my own right shoulder for six months after too many years of baseball, basketball, golf and computer mousing repetitive movements or so I've been told.

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2 hours ago, Stradling said:

Is this what Brandon Ingram has?

Yes. The I’m sure they are working him out so much to bulk up and it only makes the issue worse. I recently had to stop working my upper body because it’s causing too much restricted blood flow even after PT

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1 hour ago, makepeac said:

Nope, he had a structural problem that caused blood clots which they successfully corrected. The only reason I keep track of all these athlete's shoulder problems is I've been rehabbing my own right shoulder for six months after too many years of baseball, basketball, golf and computer mousing repetitive movements or so I've been told.

That’s not true. He has thoracic outlet. The blood isn’t flowing where it should so it’s clotting in a specific area of his body. The clot is a result of the condition. My guess is his procedure was a opening of his thoracic region to increase blood flow

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Sorry for the misinformation, when talking to my physical therapist about these issues with various pro athletes vs what I’m rehabbing she pointed out that Ingram had clotting issues which they feared were blood related but instead were structural and corrected by surgery which I misinterpreted to mean they were different than the thoracic outlet issues Fulton and others suffered from. I was just happy to hear he didn’t have what led Chris Bosh to retire.

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1 hour ago, makepeac said:

Sorry for the misinformation, when talking to my physical therapist about these issues with various pro athletes vs what I’m rehabbing she pointed out that Ingram had clotting issues which they feared were blood related but instead were structural and corrected by surgery which I misinterpreted to mean they were different than the thoracic outlet issues Fulton and others suffered from. I was just happy to hear he didn’t have what led Chris Bosh to retire.

There are so many symptoms of Thoracic outlet that get misdiagnosed for other ailments. There are actually very few specialists in So Cal that can identify it. The main surgeon on the west coast happens to be at UCLA. I know I went through 6 doctors telling me I had this or that and just continued to pump me with cortisone until 1 specialist pinpointed the actual issue. 3 months of rehab took the pain away but Im still not able to do any workout that requires overhead lifting.

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