The Official 2017-2018 Anaheim Ducks Thread

[gotbeer]

1 hour ago, nate said:

The 4th line will always be a Grant/Wagner/Scrub type line.  Roy is small so I don't think he works on a shutdown line with Cogs.  He doesn't have Cogs motor.  Kase is bigger and can play two ways.

4th line of Wagner/Grant/Ritchie makes sense.  Third line Roy/Henrique/Perry, Second Cogs/Kes/Kase, and Top line Patches/Getz/Rakell.

If Eaves comes back then bump Patches to the second line and send Roy down, Kase back to the third line.

That is all the dream scenario where the Ducks can flip Silf++ for Patches.

Looking at Pacioretty's stats. Maybe he isn't as wild of a get as we think.  He's having a very down year this year, that maybe a first isn't necessary.

Silfverberg + Roy + third to a conditional second?  For Pacioretty and Benn/Schlemko  

or Silfverberg + Roy for Galchynuk and Benn/Schlemko

Just thinking about loud.  But if we do Pacioretty, then this offseason we probably trade Cogs.  Because you have Getz/Rak/Eaves and Pac/Kess/+ or Perry/Kase and Henriques line stays the same or you + Perry (I just don't think Perry can move enough to make that line effective).  But if we go Galchynuk, then I think you stay with Kess/Cogs/Galch next season.  If we add Benn/Schlemko then I think Fowler will be so much more effective without having a cone next to him.

[nate]

I personally would be against trading Roy, need young forwards in the system and he had a lot of promise.

Maybe throw in Ritchie?  Honestly not sure what value he has or what MTL is expecting, just total speculation.

[UndertheHalo]

Definitely should avoid trading Roy if possible.  Not that he’s untouchable. 

[HaloCory22]

Ducks should really be selling tbh. Even if they get into the playoffs they're no threat. At least not a real one. Sell off any assets we have and start planning for next year. Call up the kids after and let them get their beaks wet. See what we have in the farm. Send Beauch and Bieksa to the press box where they belong and let Pettersson and Megna have their chance.

 

Ideally, I'd like these guys to be gone either at the deadline or by the draft.

Vermette (Vermeh for AO)

Silf

Ritchie

I'm okay to keep Wagner because of his physical play and he's a solid platoon guy that can play any FW position in the bottom 6.

 

 

[HaloCory22]

In 2018-19 I'd love to see

 

Pax-Getz-Rak

Kase-Rico-Perry

Cogs-Kes-Wags (Kes and Wags throwing out hits like its MJ in the 80s)

Roy-Grant-Brown

Cam-Montour

Hamp-Manson

Pettersson- FA/Trade

 

Imagine if Eaves actually comes back? He was skating on Saturday. Allows us to flip a FW for some D help possibly or use him as trade bait next deadline if he's solid. I feel for Roy in this situation but Kase has earned himself a shot at the top 6.

 

 

 

[gotbeer]

12 minutes ago, HaloCory22 said:

In 2018-19 I'd love to see

 

Pax-Getz-Rak

Kase-Rico-Perry

Cogs-Kes-Wags (Kes and Wags throwing out hits like its MJ in the 80s)

Roy-Grant-Brown

Cam-Montour

Hamp-Manson

Pettersson- FA/Trade

 

Imagine if Eaves actually comes back? He was skating on Saturday. Allows us to flip a FW for some D help possibly or use him as trade bait next deadline if he's solid. I feel for Roy in this situation but Kase has earned himself a shot at the top 6.

 

 

 

Just my opinion.  But I just don't see Perry being a fit on a Henrique/Kase line.  Right now, for some weird reason, Ritchie looks really good on that line.  He's moving, cycling, disrupting, and passing.  Which is 4 things Perry does not do anymore.  

That Eaves is actually skating is a really big thing.  Because I think the thing with whatever crap he had is he couldn't do much in terms of excercise.  I think in the interview on the awesome beard night, he said he turned a big corner a few weeks back.  Add what he said to that he is skating, and maybe he kicked the shit out of it, and sent it packing.  

So for 2018/19 in the porn world would be

Getz/Eaves/Rakell

Kessler/Pacioretty/Perry

Henrique/Kase/Ritchie

Wagner/Grant/Brown

Hamp/Manson (just on FF and CS% you have to think they are the #1 line right now)

Fowler/Benn or Schlemko (I just think if you are going to get Pac or Galch, you are also going to get a Dman)

Montour/Larsson (he's had a full season in AHL.  Bring him up for bottom pairing to ease him in)

If you did that, the only drama this offseason would be Kase and Ritchie in RFA and Wagner/Grant/Brown in UFA.  But I can't see them getting huge contracts.  And Cogs would be trade bait.

[UndertheHalo]

I honestly think we should all just pretend Eaves isn’t on the team anymore.  The guy is what 34 ? Or will be ? I definitely don’t want the Ducks to be making plans around that guy.  It wasn’t meant to be with that dude.  All the best to him of course. 

And I think Wagner is actually one of our more valuable assets that we can realistically trade.  Silvferberg being the most valuable probably. 

[HaloCory22]

36 minutes ago, gotbeer said:

Just my opinion.  But I just don't see Perry being a fit on a Henrique/Kase line.  Right now, for some weird reason, Ritchie looks really good on that line.  He's moving, cycling, disrupting, and passing.  Which is 4 things Perry does not do anymore.  

That Eaves is actually skating is a really big thing.  Because I think the thing with whatever crap he had is he couldn't do much in terms of excercise.  I think in the interview on the awesome beard night, he said he turned a big corner a few weeks back.  Add what he said to that he is skating, and maybe he kicked the shit out of it, and sent it packing.  

So for 2018/19 in the porn world would be

Getz/Eaves/Rakell

Kessler/Pacioretty/Perry

Henrique/Kase/Ritchie

Wagner/Grant/Brown

Hamp/Manson (just on FF and CS% you have to think they are the #1 line right now)

Fowler/Benn or Schlemko (I just think if you are going to get Pac or Galch, you are also going to get a Dman)

Montour/Larsson (he's had a full season in AHL.  Bring him up for bottom pairing to ease him in)

If you did that, the only drama this offseason would be Kase and Ritchie in RFA and Wagner/Grant/Brown in UFA.  But I can't see them getting huge contracts.  And Cogs would be trade bait.

Ritchie has no business being on this team next year. He's gone imo. Wagner does everything he can but better.

Larsson I'm predicting is gone too. Think about it. Megna, Welinski, and Pettersson all getting call ups over him. Lots of the writers are saying Larsson has taken a huge step back and he's getting exposed quite a bit. Some even saying he had no business being a 1st rounder. I'm putting my money on the Pettersson train. He was widely regarded as the most impressive D prospect in camp and arguably NHL ready. We'll see tonight!

[UndertheHalo]

17 minutes ago, HaloCory22 said:

Ritchie has no business being on this team next year. He's gone imo. Wagner does everything he can but better.

Larsson I'm predicting is gone too. Think about it. Megna, Welinski, and Pettersson all getting call ups over him. Lots of the writers are saying Larsson has taken a huge step back and he's getting exposed quite a bit. Some even saying he had no business being a 1st rounder. I'm putting my money on the Pettersson train. He was widely regarded as the most impressive D prospect in camp and arguably NHL ready. We'll see tonight!

Yea I’ve always tempered my enthusiasm for Larsson just because of how he profiles.  Not only do we have plenty of that type of player  but also because the scouting on him has always been pretty luke warm.  There’s guys that like him but it always seems so conditional.  He just seems like a  poor mans Lindholm. You guys all know what I think of Lindholm. 

Anyway, I would very much like to swap him. 

Edited February 13, 2018 by UndertheHalo

[gotbeer]

16 minutes ago, HaloCory22 said:

Ritchie has no business being on this team next year. He's gone imo. Wagner does everything he can but better.

Larsson I'm predicting is gone too. Think about it. Megna, Welinski, and Pettersson all getting call ups over him. Lots of the writers are saying Larsson has taken a huge step back and he's getting exposed quite a bit. Some even saying he had no business being a 1st rounder. I'm putting my money on the Pettersson train. He was widely regarded as the most impressive D prospect in camp and arguably NHL ready. We'll see tonight!

Interesting about Larsson.  I haven't heard that.  That would make a Silfverberg + Larsson an interesting trade proposition.  

[nate]

Megna and Welinski are not NHL quality prospects imo.  They are the equivalent of a 27 year old 4A player.  Megna is big but has no mobility and Welinski is Holzer with a little bit more scoring.

Hopefully Larsson develops, if not that hurts.  I am excited about Pettersson.

I also don't think that highly of Wagner like you guys do.  For a 4th liner he is fine but nothing more and definitely not worth more than the minimum $.

[UndertheHalo]

56 minutes ago, nate said:

Megna and Welinski are not NHL quality prospects imo.  They are the equivalent of a 27 year old 4A player.  Megna is big but has no mobility and Welinski is Holzer with a little bit more scoring.

Hopefully Larsson develops, if not that hurts.  I am excited about Pettersson.

I also don't think that highly of Wagner like you guys do.  For a 4th liner he is fine but nothing more and definitely not worth more than the minimum $.

Yea I like Pettersson more also.  And it’s not that Wagner is great, it’s just that he’s a guy that teams may perceive as valuable.  He does a good job doing what he does.  Energy player, solid fore checker.  Like you said a 4th line guy.  But one that has the ability to be bumped into more prominent roles short term as needed.  Teams need those types of players. 

 

 

 

 

 

[UndertheHalo]

Carolina is helping us out right now.  Kings down 0-2.  Boston is not helping.  Calgary leads 2-1.  Both games are definitely on score board watch for us tonight. 

[gotbeer]

How is that a penalty on Ritchie?  

[gotbeer]

So it's legal for Detroit to have 10 men on the ice at a time?

[gotbeer]

HOw the fuck does Silfverberg miss that?

[nate]

Oh for fucks sake, Silferberg.

[gotbeer]

Those two open goals that we missed are going to bite us in the ass.

[nate]

Fucking Bieksa

[gotbeer]

Good job Cone!!!!!!!

Awesome!!!!!

[UndertheHalo]

Boyz.  

We trash. 

[gotbeer]

Geeze, we really suck.  How many times have we had the goalie at our mercy, and we just take it up the ass.

[deepdrive]

The way they're playing and the looks on their faces when they came off the ice says they're aware of how things aren't good now. It's all kind of depressing.

[UndertheHalo]

Like I said, it’s a good thing the Angels are about to get going. 

And if we’re gonna choke on dick and miss the playoffs I hope we crash and burn hard.  Nothing is worse then middling. 

[UndertheHalo]

Calgary and LA and Nashville are all losing and the Ducks are going to fucking blow it.