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18 hours ago, St1ck said:

Why do the people of the great state of Ohio support baby murder?

 

https://apnews.com/article/ohio-abortion-amendment-election-2023-fe3e06747b616507d8ca21ea26485270

Ohio voters enshrine abortion access in constitution in latest statewide win for reproductive rights

Ohio isn’t all that great. 

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16 hours ago, arch stanton said:

80 % of women + 25 % of men = a solid winning hand. The Reps are gonna wish all the swing states they hope to win next year don't get this on the ballot

You’re probably right. That said this is another prime example of a nation in decline. When decent people support murder to win an election or gain social acceptance, liberty and justice are ultimately doomed. 

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17 hours ago, Kotchman said:

You’re probably right. That said this is another prime example of a nation in decline. When decent people support murder to win an election or gain social acceptance, liberty and justice are ultimately doomed. 

Some might say bodily autonomy is liberty.

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5 hours ago, Rico said:

Some might say bodily autonomy is liberty.

Joe Biden and Fauci disagree. Then there the 100 million Americans that lost their life without a vote. But hey, those who survived can have transgender story time in kindergarten courtesy of the dem party. 

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50 minutes ago, Kotchman said:

Joe Biden and Fauci disagree. Then there the 100 million Americans that lost their life without a vote. But hey, those who survived can have transgender story time in kindergarten courtesy of the dem party. 

Didn't the God you worship kill a bunch of babies in the Old Testament? Just want to verify the consistency of baby/fetus murder throughout history. Especially what is acceptable and what isn't.

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2 hours ago, Kevin said:

Didn't the God you worship kill a bunch of babies in the Old Testament? Just want to verify the consistency of baby/fetus murder throughout history. Especially what is acceptable and what isn't.

Well you’re taking the out of context lazy atheist that’s read one passage of the Bible argument. That said you also fail to understand the concept of Creator and Judge. 
I agree with a lot of libertarian views of government. However the blatant rejection of eternal truths has shifted libertarians more in line with the single issue God hating libs. Right and wrong exists and never changes. Freedom can only exist within the confines of eternal truths. 

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4 minutes ago, Kotchman said:

Well you’re taking the out of context lazy atheist that’s read one passage of the Bible argument. That said you also fail to understand the concept of Creator and Judge. 
I agree with a lot of libertarian views of government. However the blatant rejection of eternal truths has shifted libertarians more in line with the single issue God hating libs. Right and wrong exists and never changes. Freedom can only exist within the confines of eternal truths. 

Hmmm nah I don’t think it’s lazy or taken out of context. The Bible mentions God killing or ordering the Israelites to kill people which would include children and even pregnant women. And yet abortion is abhorrent in a God’s view. Doesn’t add up in my opinion and is hypocritical.

I’m all for believing what you want. But I believe it’s inconsistent.

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2 hours ago, Kevin said:

Hmmm nah I don’t think it’s lazy or taken out of context. The Bible mentions God killing or ordering the Israelites to kill people which would include children and even pregnant women. And yet abortion is abhorrent in a God’s view. Doesn’t add up in my opinion and is hypocritical.

I’m all for believing what you want. But I believe it’s inconsistent.

You’re certainly entitled to your opinion. I’ll argue your argument was the original argument that ultimately lead to the fall of man.
The Judge and Creator makes his own rules. As inferior beings, we get to make our own choices but we don’t set the rules. 

We founded this nation on Christian principles and prospered for damn near 250 years. There isn’t an atheist nation in the world that’s enjoyed our freedom and prosperity. But yes, it makes sense to follow the values set by secular socialists nations. Maybe someday we can be France. 

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