Jose Rondon out of the season, Roth DFA'd

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@missionsmilb @JustCK3 (finger nail) on DL and SS Jose Rondon is out for the season (fractured rt elbow).

 

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Indians have claimed RHP Deolis Guerra off waivers from the Pirates. LHP Michael Roth has been designated for assignment.

 

 

[tdawg87]

Thanks Dipoto!

[nando714]

Dipoto would have sent cron and bedrosian packing in some kind of deal this past july

[nate]

Fractured elbow?  ouch

[DowningRules]

"Michael Roth" never struck me as a baseball name.

 

Jose Rondon sounds like a modern era baseball name.  Maybe even from "Major League 2."

[tomsred]

Dipoto would have sent cron and bedrosian packing in some kind of deal this past july

 

Does that mean we would have lost today's game?

[nando714]

Does that mean we would have lost today's game?

Cespedes would have hit a walk off

So the answer is no

[Guest]

Michael Roth is the worst pitcher I've ever seen.

[Ransom Ballard]

Cespedes would have hit a walk off

So the answer is no

Let it go already Cespedes was never coming here not now or ever.

[Stradling]

Michael Roth is the worst pitcher I've ever seen.

¿Hola señor Salas, como estas?

[nando714]

Let it go already Cespedes was never coming here not now or ever.

Don't ruin my pipe dream. I still have the off season as a glimmer of hope

[Second Base]

The biggest thing with Roth right now is exactly what prevented him from being a 1st round pick a couple years back.  He may be one of the most celebrated collegiate pitchers ever, but the Angels grabbed him in the 9th round because scouts just weren't sure if his stuff translated to the majors.  As we've seen, he's the sort of guy that can be very solid in AA/AAA.  Above average even.  But the arsenal just doesn't fly with major league hitters.  He's got a slightly above average pitch and two below average pitches.  He tries to make it work with deception by changing arm slots, which he's done effectively in the minors.  But again, it just doesn't work against the best in the world.

 

He should be able to cut out a nice career in the minors though, if he wants.  I'd wager that we haven't seen the last of him in the majors either.  He may get a shot to be a reliever down the road.

 

As for Jose, he's a perfect example of why projecting future tools is so difficult to do.  Seeing him as this 17 year old that could hit for average, has plate discipline, room for power, good speed and can pick it at SS was exciting.  The speed stuck, as did his defense at SS.  Against a higher level of play, the plate discipline never grew into anything more than average, the power below average, and the batting average and speed around average. 

 

The result appears to be someone that'll probably end up being a utility player in the majors in his mid-20's.  Not the top prospect we envisioned. 

[ten ocho recon scout]

Cespedes would have hit a walk off

So the answer is no

cespedes would be batting 161 if he was playing LF hetre right now

[Tank]

Michael Roth is the worst pitcher I've ever seen.

 

alex, i'll take esteban yan for a billion, please.

[DowningRules]

alex, i'll take esteban yan for a billion, please.

 

Scott "I don't care because I'm paid so I'm not even gonna try until I feel like it" Kazmir when he was with the Angels is up to the challenge.

[TroutField]

How has Joe Blanton not been brought up?

[Tank]

This thread is filled with lots of younger posters. Anyone who's been a fan for 30+ years knows that this team has had a staggering number of crappy pitchers, enough to challenge the amount of bandwidth on this site if we were to start discussing all of them.

Signed,

Hilly Hathaway

[Dick B Back]

This thread is filled with lots of younger posters. Anyone who's been a fan for 30+ years knows that this team has had a staggering number of crappy pitchers, enough to challenge the amount of bandwidth on this site if we were to start discussing all of them.

Signed,

Hilly Hathaway

Agreed.

[mtangelsfan]

Seth Etherton would like a word with you.