Angels and the climb to top 10 Draft pick

[notherhalo]

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/reversestandings2014

 

Angels are 53-65 right now in 8th place, just 1.5 games ahead of us in the Loss column is the Cubs/Brewers at #4

in other words, the race is very tight to get between the #4 pick and the #8+ pick

 

It doesnt look to be realistic that we can play .380 baseball from here on out, but if we can go .400-.410 from here on out, we have a decent shot at top 5

[greginpsca]

I don't think the halo's play the remainder at the current % of .449. Top 5-6 is very realistic.

[tomsred]

A stud starting pitcher would be nice.

[YouthofToday]

More starts by Blanton, Hanson, Appier and dude off the street please! I'm serious.

[Season Over]

I'm not rooting for the team to tank, but I'm certainly not distraught when they lose anymore.

[tennischmp]

Maybe Dipoto can get us some more guys off the waiver to help get us a Top 5 pick

[AZMike]

Maybe Dipoto can get us some more guys off the waiver to help get us a Top 5 pick

A few more Callaspo-for-Green type trades could help keep the the stream of high draft picks coming, with the added benefit of helping us remain under the luxury tax cutoff and save more $$ to extend Trout 

[YouthofToday]

[tdawg87]

Tyler Kolek plz

[yk9001]

For those of you salivating over a top 10 pick, here are the top tens drafted from 20  -2011

2011

JR 1 2011 1 Cole, Gerrit RHP Pittsburgh Pirates 08/15/2011 UCLA .263 0 3 0 5 5 0 3.95 47 JR 1 2011 2 Hultzen, Danny LHP Seattle Mariners 08/15/2011 Virginia               -.--   JR 1 2011 3 Bauer, Trevor RHP Arizona Diamondbacks 07/25/2011 UCLA .000 0 0 0 2 4 0 5.67 28 JR 1 2011 4 Bundy, Dylan RHP Baltimore Orioles 08/15/2011 Owasso (OK) HS         0 0 0 0.00 0 JR 1 2011 5 Starling, Bubba OF Kansas City Royals 08/15/2011 Gardner Edgerton (KS) HS               -.--   JR 1 2011 6 Rendon, Anthony SS Washington Nationals 08/15/2011 Rice .264 6 24 1       -.--   JR 1 2011 7 Bradley, Archie RHP Arizona Diamondbacks 08/15/2011 Broken Arrow Sr (OK) HS               -.--   JR 1 2011 8 Lindor, Francisco SS Cleveland Indians 08/15/2011 Montverde (FL) HS               -.--   JR 1 2011 9 Baez, Javier SS Chicago Cubs 08/15/2011 Arlington Country Day (FL) HS               -.--   JR 1 2011 10 Spangenberg, Cory 3B San Diego Padres 06/10/2011 Indian River Stateate College               -.--  

 

2010

JR 1 2010 1 Harper, Bryce OF Washington Nationals 08/16/2010 College of Southern Nevada .267 39 99 24       -.--   JR 1 2010 2 Taillon, Jameson RHP Pittsburgh Pirates 08/16/2010 The Woodlands HS               -.--   JR 1 2010 3 Machado, Manny SS Baltimore Orioles 08/16/2010 Brito Miami Private School .286 18 82 8       -.--   JR 1 2010 4 Colon, Christian SS Kansas City Royals 06/25/2010 Cal State - Fullerton               -.--   JR 1 2010 5 Pomeranz, Drew LHP Cleveland Indians 08/16/2010 Ole Miss .206 1 1 0 4 14 0 5.40 109 JR 1 2010 6 Loux, Barret RHP Arizona Diamondbacks Unsigned Texas A&M               -.--   JR 1 2010 7 Harvey, Matt RHP New York Mets 08/16/2010 North Carolina .149 0 5 0 12 9 0 2.36 251 JR 1 2010 8 DeShields, Delino CF Houston Astros 08/05/2010 Woodward Academy               -.--   JR 1 2010 9 Whitson, Karsten RHP San Diego Padres Unsigned Chipley HS               -.--   JR 1 2010 10 Choice, Michael CF Oakland Athletics 07/30/2010 University of Texas - Arlington               -.--  

 

2009

JR 1 2009 1 Strasburg, Stephen P Washington Nationals 08/17/2009 San Diego St U .171 1 9 0 27 19 0 2.90 466 JR 1 2009 2 Ackley, Dustin CF Seattle Mariners 08/17/2009 UNC Chapel Hill .240 19 104 20       -.--   JR 1 2009 3 Tate, Donavan CF San Diego Padres 08/17/2009 Cartersville HS               -.--   JR 1 2009 4 Sanchez, Tony C Pittsburgh Pirates 06/12/2009 Boston Col .188 0 2 0       -.--   JR 1 2009 5 Hobgood, Matt P Baltimore Orioles 06/27/2009 Norco HS               -.--   JR 1 2009 6 Wheeler, Zack P San Francisco Giants 08/17/2009 East Paulding HS .150 0 1 0 5 2 0 3.63 45 JR 1 2009 7 Minor, Mike P Atlanta Braves 08/05/2009 Vanderbilt U .101 1 6 0 31 20 0 3.86 408 JR 1 2009 8 Leake, Mike P Cincinnati Reds 08/15/2009 Arizona St U .256 2 9 0 38 27 0 3.91 415 JR 1 2009 9 Turner, Jacob P Detroit Tigers 08/17/2009 Westminster Christian Academy .075 0 0 0 5 10 0 3.89 104 JR 1 2009 10 Storen, Drew P Washington Nationals 06/10/2009 Stanford U .500 0 0 0 16 10 54 3.59 193

 

2008

JR 1 2008 1 Beckham, Tim SS Tampa Bay Rays - Griffin HS               -.--   JR 1 2008 2 Alvarez, Pedro 3B Pittsburgh Pirates - Vanderbilt .236 79 244 3       -.--   JR 1 2008 3 Hosmer, Eric 1B Kansas City Royals - American Heritage School .271 45 194 36       -.--   JR 1 2008 4 Matusz, Brian P Baltimore Orioles - San Diego .125 0 0 0 24 34 0 5.16 336 JR 1 2008 5 Posey, Buster C San Francisco Giants - Florida State .310 60 252 5       -.--   JR 1 2008 6 Skipworth, Kyle C Florida Marlins - Patriot HS .000 0 0 0       -.--   JR 1 2008 7 Alonso, Yonder 1B Cincinnati Reds - Miami .282 20 121 9       -.--   JR 1 2008 8 Beckham, Gordon SS Chicago White Sox - Georgia .252 52 233 26       -.--   JR 1 2008 9 Crow, Aaron P Washington Nationals - Missouri Columbia   0 0 0 14 8 3 3.05 167 JR 1 2008 10 Castro, Jason C Houston Astros - Stanford .252 22 82 2       -.--  

 

2007

JR 1 2007 1 Price, David SP Tampa Bay Devil Rays - Vanderbilt U .083 0 0 0 67 36 0 3.18 825 JR 1 2007 2 Moustakas, Mike SS Kansas City Royals - Chatsworth (CA) HS .245 35 133 8       -.--   JR 1 2007 3 Vitters, Josh 3B Chicago Cubs - Cypress (CA) HS .121 2 5 2       -.--   JR 1 2007 4 Moskos, Daniel RP Pittsburgh Pirates - Clemson U   0 0 0 1 1 0 2.96 11 JR 1 2007 5 Wieters, Matt C Baltimore Orioles - Georgia Tech .255 81 305 6       -.--   JR 1 2007 6 Detwiler, Ross SP Washington Nationals - Missouri St U .063 0 3 0 18 29 0 3.79 246 JR 1 2007 7 LaPorta, Matt OF Milwaukee Brewers - U Florida .238 31 120 3       -.--   JR 1 2007 8 Weathers, Casey RP Colorado Rockies - Vanderbilt U               -.--   JR 1 2007 9 Parker, Jarrod SP Arizona Diamondbacks - Norwell (IN) HS .125 0 0 0 21 14 0 3.59 243 JR 1 2007 10 Bumgarner, Madison SP San Francisco Giants - South Caldwell (NC) HS .144 2 16 0 47 37 0 3.10 632

 

2006

JR 1 2006 1 Hochevar, Luke SP Kansas City Royals - No School .063 0 0 0 41 60 2 5.19 580 JR 1 2006 2 Reynolds, Greg SP Colorado Rockies - Stanford U .167 0 0 0 5 9 0 7.55 41 JR 1 2006 3 Longoria, Evan 3B Tampa Bay Devil Rays - Cal St Long Beach .275 152 518 37       -.--   JR 1 2006 4 Lincoln, Brad SP Pittsburgh Pirates - U Houston .237 0 4 0 9 10 1 4.56 164 JR 1 2006 5 Morrow, Brandon RP Seattle Mariners - UC Berkeley .000 0 0 0 41 40 16 4.22 735 JR 1 2006 6 Miller, Andrew SP Detroit Tigers - UNC Chapel Hill .056 0 3 0 25 33 0 5.33 387 JR 1 2006 7 Kershaw, Clayton SP Los Angeles Dodgers - Highland Park HS .145 1 15 0 72 44 0 2.64 1148 JR 1 2006 8 Stubbs, Drew OF Cincinnati Reds - U Texas Austin .241 66 216 123       -.--   JR 1 2006 9 Rowell, Billy 3B Baltimore Orioles - Bishop Eustace Prep School               -.--   JR 1 2006 10 Lincecum, Tim SP San Francisco Giants - U Washington .114 0 18 0 85 68 0 3.43 1470

 

2005

JR 1 2005 1 Upton, Justin SS Arizona Diamondbacks - Great Bridge HS, VA .277 130 424 87       -.--   JR 1 2005 2 Gordon, Alex 3B Kansas City Royals - U Nebraska Lincoln, NE .269 95 381 64       -.--   JR 1 2005 3 Clement, Jeff C Seattle Mariners - U Southern California, CA .218 14 39 0       -.--   JR 1 2005 4 Zimmerman, Ryan 3B Washington Nationals - U Virginia, VA .286 166 649 35       -.--   JR 1 2005 5 Braun, Ryan 3B Milwaukee Brewers - U Miami, FL .312 211 681 130       -.--   JR 1 2005 6 Romero, Ricky P Toronto Blue Jays - Cal St Fullerton, CA .095 0 2 0 51 45 0 4.14 621 JR 1 2005 7 Tulowitzki, Troy SS Colorado Rockies - Long Beach St, CA .294 150 535 54       -.--   JR 1 2005 8 Townsend, Wade P Tampa Bay Devil Rays - Rice U, TX               -.--   JR 1 2005 9 Pelfrey, Mike P New York Mets - Wichita St U, KS .098 0 13 0 54 64 1 4.46 571 JR 1 2005 10 Maybin, Cameron OF Detroit Tigers - T C Roberson HS, NC .248 31 135 89       -.--  

 

 

As Jose Mota would say, there are a lot of whiffs in that group.  Knowing our FO, they might use it on Johnny Manziel and a bag of magic beans.

[LightTheHalo]

A lot of whiffs, sure, but A LOT of regulars and better. Pretty solid chance a top-10 becomes a better-than-average player.

[Brandon]

I don't get the praise to tank either, YK. No guarantee we draft a star and even then he is probably 4 years out from playing.

[tdawg87]

A lot of whiffs, sure, but A LOT of regulars and better. Pretty solid chance a top-10 becomes a better-than-average player.

 

Or, at worst, a good trade piece.

[eaterfan]

A top 5 pick would be nice. I hear this draft is much better than the last two years. The MLB draft is probably the most risky but a lot of the big time hyped guys still make it even if they aren't HOFers. I'm not cheering for the Angels to tank but rationally I know it's probably better.

 

But aside from that getting a higher pick gets more money in the draft pool. The Angels could pull a Pirates and not sign their first rounder and use that money to draft guys who are known to be good talents but hard to sign later in the draft or pull an Astros and take an easy sign with their first pick and use the extra money later in the draft too. The top of the first round is the part of the draft most effected by the draft cap so the higher the pick the better the money the advantage.

[RePLAY]

man..top 10 would def be a game changer. Lets do it!

[Troll Daddy]

This thread is very sad.

[Hollyw00d]

Tank! Tank! Tank!

Scioscia should put up a poster in the clubhouse discouraging winning. Play all the kids!

[Angel Oracle]

Will the teams ahead of the Halos stop losing please?

Muchas gracias

[Angel Oracle]

I don't get the praise to tank either, YK. No guarantee we draft a star and even then he is probably 4 years out from playing.

Unless being an advanced enough college pitcher like Chris Sale turned out to be

[yk9001]

Expecting the team's fortunes to turn around on a single top 10 pick is something akin to a Hail Mary. 

 

Hell, we have one of the best players in the game, and if you read the Halo WAR Honks on this board, one of the greatest players in ML history - and it isn't helping for dick.

 

The Angels need a lot of good players.  One top 10 pick ain't going to do it.

[Angel Oracle]

It's not just the 1st round pick, it's having that earlier pick in every round.

[NrM]

The Angels need to restock the farm system as fast as they can, but with their reliance on signing big time free agents, and the non existent international presence, it could take some time.. 

Rebuilding could be the best route to go, but that's not going to happen in the early years of hamilton and pujols contract.

[Hollyw00d]

Expecting the team's fortunes to turn around on a single top 10 pick is something akin to a Hail Mary. 

 

Hell, we have one of the best players in the game, and if you read the Halo WAR Honks on this board, one of the greatest players in ML history - and it isn't helping for dick.

 

The Angels need a lot of good players.  One top 10 pick ain't going to do it.

What's the answer then? Sign every available aging free agent and hope a few of them don't completely crash and burn? The farm system needs rebuilding, and the draft is the best way to do it. It's not like we've been blowing away the league with our trades, either.

[yk9001]

The draft probably is the best way.... but I read day after day here about a Top 10 pick in 2014, like its going to be a panacea.

 

We need many good drafts.  And the results will take years to manifest in the big club.

 

2013-2017 could be dustbowl years for the Angels.

[Hollyw00d]

At least we'll have Pujols