Updated pitching stats

[fan_since79]

Walks, 129 (30th place in MLB)

 

WHIP, 1.48 (29th)

 

ERA, 4.78 (29th)

 

Saves, 4 (tied for 29th)

 

 

[Angel Oracle]

The walks are a big part of the staff's struggles.

Part of it is missing Weaver for the past nearly a month.

Vargas has decent to solid control.

Blantana needs spotless control to be decent.

Can ANY relievers throw strikes with ANY consistency?

[jsnpritchett]

Ks 26th in MLB

K/BB ratio 29th in MLB

[tdawg87]

Improvement!

[nate]

Echoing what others have said, it is all about the walk numbers.  Been a problem for years.

[Coachbulldog]

Sad thing is, I don't see pitching improving much until Weaver comes back and even then he only pitches every fifth game.

[jsnpritchett]

It's about more than just walks, though.  High walks, lots of hits, and few Ks--combined with league-leading error totals and average defensive efficiency ratings--means that there are pretty much always a lot of runners on and a lot of balls in play.  That's pretty much a recipe for disaster.  You can only work out of so many jams before it comes back to haunt you.

[fan_since79]

We have a nibbler (Wilson) and a guy who gives up a boatload of hits and home runs (Blanton). Another guy (Hanson) has struggled the past couple years with injuries and declining velocity. Weaver, our lone ace, is out, and Vargas is...well, average. 

 

And the bullpen is....unmentionable.

 

 

[jsnpritchett]

Side note: both the Red Sox and Tigers' staffs are averaging 9.9 K/9, which is an absurd rate this deep into a season.

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/BOS/2013.shtml

 

Of the 17 pitchers the Red Sox have used this year, 11 of them are K'ing at least 1 per inning.

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/DET/2013.shtml

 

Of the 16 pitchers the Tigers have used this year, 11 of them are K'ing at least 1 per inning.

[jshep]

It's about more than just walks, though.  High walks, lots of hits, and few Ks--combined with league-leading error totals and average defensive efficiency ratings--means that there are pretty much always a lot of runners on and a lot of balls in play.  That's pretty much a recipe for disaster.  You can only work out of so many jams before it comes back to haunt you.

 

The team's defensive struggles thusfar is one of the weirdest, if not the weirdest, things about this team.

[nate]

Side note: both the Red Sox and Tigers' staffs are averaging 9.9 K/9, which is an absurd rate this deep into a season.

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/BOS/2013.shtml

 

Of the 17 pitchers the Red Sox have used this year, 11 of them are K'ing at least 1 per inning.

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/DET/2013.shtml

 

Of the 16 pitchers the Tigers have used this year, 11 of them are K'ing at least 1 per inning.

 

There are plenty of pitchers that are successful without missing bats.  The key is not giving up free baserunners (walks) and not constantly being behind in the count.  When you are ahead in the count you can get guys off balance and balls aren't hit as hard.

 

For example the BABIP on a 2-0 count is much higher than the BABIP on a 0-1 or 1-2 count.

[bloodbrother]

I'll guess the only team below them in some of these pitching stats are the Astros, right?

[WallyWorld]

The team's defensive struggles thusfar is one of the weirdest, if not the weirdest, things about this team.

 

and not to derail this thread, but to me that's one of the biggest arguments for Scioscia having worn out his welcome.  No earthly reason for the defense to have been this bad so far, which points to an overall lack of focus or as someone else called it, malaise.

[fan_since79]

I'll guess the only team below them in some of these pitching stats are the Astros, right?

You got it.

[fan_since79]

Not pitching, but still significant:

 

Los Angeles has batted .229 in its last 15 games and Hamilton is hitting .208 with 38 strikeouts in 125 at-bats. The Angels' 23 errors are among the most in the majors.

 

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/angels-astros-preview-185026323--mlb.html

 

Two weeks ago we were second in MLB with a .274 team average. Now we're 11th with a .258 average.

 

 

[Corona]

We are walking way too many batters and nobody can pitch with runners on, anytime someone gets on base I'm expecting them to score, its ridiculous. 4 Saves is just pathetic, this pen has probably blown at least 9 leads already.

[Docwaukee]

unlucky

[Jay]

yikes

[bloodbrother]

So they have the worst or 2nd worst pitching staff in MLB, on par with the Astros, and they are among the league leaders in errors made. This isn't too promising

[Jay]

They're poised to go on a .650 tear

[tdawg87]

So they have the worst or 2nd worst pitching staff in MLB, on par with the Astros, and they are among the league leaders in errors made. This isn't too promising

 

but its early

[fan_since79]

Most outs run into on the basepaths, too.

[Ray McKigney]

Fire Butcher?

[Docwaukee]

the defense thing isn't totally unusual with bad pitching staffs that don't throw strikes.  lots of baserunners.  lots of pitches.  long innings.  They are getting lulled to sleep.  

[MattFromSimiValley]

Well if Blanton is throwing pitches in the strike zone then they will get pounded as he throws absolute meat. I think we may be better off having Blanton walk a batter then let them hit it 400'. The same goes for Tommy Hanjobs. They throw meat. 88mph fastballs with no movement or deception aint gonna cut it in the MLB.