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OC Register: Angels Notes: Pondering a shorter spring training


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2 hours ago, Stradling said:

Why?  Is it that they are scoring a lot of runs, or because they are stealing a bunch of bases, or the pitching doing relatively well and they are healthy? 

I don't believe that our starting pitchers have worked deep enough into counts or innings to jump right in to the season. The last days of spring work will be necessary for guys like Richards, Skaggs and Shoemaker to step it up.

In 2016 Heaney and Tropeano each had more spring training innings pitched than Richards, Skaggs and Shoemaker currently have this spring.

And we certainly aren't hitting as well as we did last spring.

Angels team batting 2016 Spring Training .310 / 29hrs / .188rbi's / .844ops

Angels team batting 2017 Spring Training .262 / 18hrs / 125rbi's / .739ops

Angels team pitching 2016 Spring Training 3.98 era 

Angels team pitching 2017 Spring Training 4.68 era 

 

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I think spring training needs to stay the length it is because of the pitchers. Hitters come into camp in shape and don't need to get into shape like they used to. However, there's no way to get the pitchers ready any faster, and they need to face live hitting. Making them rush is going to increase the chance of injury and there's enough arm injuries as it is.

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On 3/25/2017 at 6:28 PM, CALZONE said:

 

In 2016 Heaney and Tropeano each had more spring training innings pitched than Richards, Skaggs and Shoemaker currently have this spring.

 

Have to be careful comparing spring innings totals because innings in minor league games aren't tracked. Angels starters have thrown a lot of those. 

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6 hours ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

Have to be careful comparing spring innings totals because innings in minor league games aren't tracked. Angels starters have thrown a lot of those. 

How much information is made available about these minor league games? Balls, strikes, K's, hits, hrs, wp's, innings pitched or velocity? 

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On 3/25/2017 at 9:45 PM, arch stanton said:

Like Shoemaker said, if ST were shorter he'd just alter his off season a little bit to compensate. But all things considered, as long as people are willing to pay $60 for a ticket and networks are willing to broadcast the games, nothing is going to change

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10 hours ago, CALZONE said:

How much information is made available about these minor league games? Balls, strikes, K's, hits, hrs, wp's, innings pitched or velocity? 

They keep all that stuff but its internal. There's no independent scorekeeping going on like in a real game. One team may call something a hit and another team may call it an error. They also "roll" innings before 3 outs sometimes, to keep pitch counts low. 

Usually we ask ask the PR people for a pitcher's line and they give us the basic box score line plus pitches. They never give us velocity. If we want that we need to go watch the game ourselves. 

The whole point of a minor league game is just to get work. And the results can be very misleading because sometimes the defense is terrible. The fields are hard. The umpires are bad. 

Usually i just want to know how many innings and pitches and did the guy come through it alive. 

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16 minutes ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

They keep all that stuff but its internal. There's no independent scorekeeping going on like in a real game. One team may call something a hit and another team may call it an error. They also "roll" innings before 3 outs sometimes, to keep pitch counts low. 

Usually we ask ask the PR people for a pitcher's line and they give us the basic box score line plus pitches. They never give us velocity. If we want that we need to go watch the game ourselves. 

The whole point of a minor league game is just to get work. And the results can be very misleading because sometimes the defense is terrible. The fields are hard. The umpires are bad. 

Usually i just want to know how many innings and pitches and did the guy come through it alive. 

Thanks Jeff, good to know.

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