Gotham

[HaloCory22]

Checked out the pilot of this last night. Not too bad. Still think it'll be hard to pull this show off without Batman in it. Thought the dude from the OC was good as Gordon though. The Grounded For Life guy seems like a douche but interesting.

[TobiasFunke]

The acting and dialogue was terrible

[gotbeer]

It was interesting for sure.  But the Nolan Batman is still in my mind, and I just can't help but keep comparing.  

 

Also, it looked like they tried to cram as many characters in the premiere as possible.  Just too much overkill.  My friend said, it was like it was supposed to be a 2 hour, so instead they made it into a 1 hour.  I would have been happy with just Gordon, Wayne, and Fishboy.

[HaloCory22]

Also, Alfred is a dick in this version.

[TobiasFunke]

 

Also, it looked like they tried to cram as many characters in the premiere as possible.  Just too much overkill. I would have been happy with just Gordon, Wayne, and Fishboy.

I couldn't agree more.

 

The show reminded me why I don't watch primetime television anymore.

[Chimi]

I think the show could work if done right. I still haven't watched the premiere but it's an interesting concept. I think WB should stay away from the Superman/Batman characters for TV. They'll never show the actual characters since they are their movie franchises. Stick to the characters that won't make great film characters. That's why Arrow is such a great show. Green Arrow is perfect for TV. Looking forward to the Flash as well.

[Chimi]

I just got done watching the episode and I really liked it.  The dialogue really wasn't that great but that's typical for a pilot.  A lot of times the pilots of shows don't flow as well with how the season will be since they usually write and shoot them way before the other episodes in order to get a network to pick it up.  So we'll see how it goes the rest of the way.

[Angels_Make_Me_Drink]

I watched the first half, I will watch the second half tomorrow. The dialogue was eh and the writing was a bit cheesy. I may let a few weeks build up on the DVR before I watch again just so I can see them back to back.

[RallyMo]

It was pretty meh.

[AngelsLongBall]

Second episode was much better than the first.  Trending upwards/small sample size!

[TobiasFunke]

Second episode was much better than the first.  Trending upwards/small sample size!

Agreed. The acting and dialogue though is still sub par.

[gotbeer]

I'm still finding myself comparing Nolans Batman to this.  And I just am not getting the Alfred character at all.  Same goes with Riddler.  Cat I'm kind of blah on, she's getting more annoying than anything.  Bruce is just a whole bunch of confusion.

 

Gordon and Penguin though I'm liking their development.  

[AngelsLongBall]

I told my wife that Cat's eyes are so far apart she should be able to see behind her.  Damn near on the side of her head.  She said I'm an asshole.  I didn't argue

[TobiasFunke]

I told my wife that Cat's eyes are so far apart she should be able to see behind her.  Damn near on the side of her head.  She said I'm an asshole.  I didn't argue

That girl is so young yet has such an adult face

[TobiasFunke]

After playing the Arkham games I feel that is the best rendition of The Penguin and am bummed out that the one on Gotham doesn't portray that version. Love the cockney accent.

[eaterfan]

I really enjoyed both episodes. It's not the best show ever but I think it's better than just entertaining. There are issues to work out for sure, but I'm looking forward to next week's episode. One thing I'm worried about is they have introduced too many characters and story arcs too quickly. This means they will have used up all their ideas for the characters pretty quickly and then have to get into ridiculous situations pretty soon. The shelf life on this show might not be long.

 

I actually liked Alfred in this series. It appears I'm the only one.

[TobiasFunke]

I really enjoyed both episodes. It's not the best show ever but I think it's better than just entertaining. There are issues to work out for sure, but I'm looking forward to next week's episode. One thing I'm worried about is they have introduced too many characters and story arcs too quickly. This means they will have used up all their ideas for the characters pretty quickly and then have to get into ridiculous situations pretty soon. The shelf life on this show might not be long.

 

I actually liked Alfred in this series. It appears I'm the only one.

I've heard a lot of criticism about Alfred also. I'm into him.

[fan_since79]

I like the atmosphere of the show and the city. Brooding and dark. A sense of uneasiness throughout.

 

Best line of the night, the young Bruce Wayne..."I'm testing myself."

[Kenny]

I'm Batman-obsessed so I will watch every episode even if it's bad. Much like Arrow and Agents of SHIELD. Didn't watch Smallville, though. I was a bitter person when I was a teenager, and only just recently shook some of the bitterness toward things I have no reason to hate. Smallville was one of them.

[gotbeer]

Ok, Gotham just had a Hydra moment.  That was a real good episode.

[TobiasFunke]

Last nights episode was terrible

[HaloCory22]

I'm like 5 episodes behind. Need to catch up.

[eaterfan]

I liked last night's episode. I think it's setting up the fall finale well. I thought the week before's episode was bad but this one was much better. Two weeks ago was a great episode. The consistency of the show week to week needs to improve and the show needs to find its voice but I like where it's headed.

 

Maybe a spoiler alert below.

 

Some of the problem I have with the show is that I see it being about the development of Gotham and its main players that lead to the Batman era. I am interested in how the Mob rose to power and how Jim Gordon climbed the ranks, I'm interested in Penguin and Cat even Fish because she is part of the Mob. But a lot of the time has been spent on the weekly escapades of common criminals like the stock broker fight club and balloon guy who really have no impact on the long term formation of Gotham. This week's crime at least had to do with a long term story arch as well. So I enjoyed that.

[TobiasFunke]

But a lot of the time has been spent on the weekly escapades of common criminals like the stock broker fight club and balloon guy who really have no impact on the long term formation of Gotham.

 

the stock broker fight club was lead by Black Mask, a major character in the Batman series. Though on the other hand my beef is I feel they have already ruined Black Mask's chracter by making him some corporate dude instead the leader of his own crime ring. I know all Batman stories/movies/comics/cartoons/etc. are all semi-different but this show is making some stupid decisions. Making Victor Zasz some type of hitman errand boy instead of just a run of the mill psychopathic serial killer pissed me off.

 

I mean they have to keep the idea that there are bad guys in the show but yea, the balloon guy, what the **** was that all about?

[eaterfan]

I haven't read the comics so I didn't know black mask. That makes more sense.

Maybe Gotham is better with only a limited knowledge if the Batman universe since I can't be disappointed.

I get the point of the balloon man but it wasn't apoint that needed to be made.